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  • shaggy24
    Gold Seat
    • Apr 2016
    • 5799

    #151
    Originally posted by Sleeping Giants
    Not QPR but how do Birmingham get to spend £10 Million (although not immediately) and still fit within FFP. Are we all playing to the same rules or are they benefitting from their season in League 1 somehow?



    And they're apparantly also linked to £5.5 Million signing of Demarai Gray. Just how?
    I’m not the best on ffp Oslo best at it but if you drop to L1 does the 3yr cycle start when come up again ? They need a lot more than 1 for this league completely outplayed by probably the worst posh squad in a 15 years in cup final lack pace in lot of positions

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    • lordflashhart
      Apprentice
      • Jan 2014
      • 54

      #152
      A couple of wrong moves for them and a midtable finish will be disaster. From our standpoint all looks positive. I was looking on the Lommel club site and Saito referenced nowhere. Fingers crossed we see some positive news quickly before other teams catch on.

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      • djp
        Bronze Seat
        • Mar 2011
        • 319

        #153
        We have a lot of attacking options now with addition of Vale and Poku so is there space for Saito? As much as I have loved Chair overs the years and he has been loyal to us, would consider cashing in on him this summer and bringing Saito in as his replacement.

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        • SheepRanger
          Administrator
          • Apr 2018
          • 8370

          #154
          Originally posted by djp
          We have a lot of attacking options now with addition of Vale and Poku so is there space for Saito? As much as I have loved Chair overs the years and he has been loyal to us, would consider cashing in on him this summer and bringing Saito in as his replacement.
          There was an article recently that stated we banked on Chair being sold dor £5m once, but we didn't get a single bid.

          The fact that our budget is the 6th lowest in the league, yet Chair signed an extended contract with us, suggests there wasn't even big money on the table for him when he was about to become a free agent. He might have been one of our better players once, but others teams dont appear to rate him that highly.

          Chair is a squad player now without any resale value, imo.

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          • FurtiveFox
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 4170

            #155
            I don't think Chair is completely without transfer value but it has been much diminished after his legal problems and an injury plagued season last year. I would say £2.5m-£3m. If he can fit in with the new manager's way of playing is worth far more to us keeping him, particularly as he is on a new contract. No pressure to sell. Hopefully he can put the last year or so behind him. There is real competition now for the attacking midfield places so nobody is guaranteed a starting place and this is without further signings in that area.

            In fact not sure it can be said anyone is guaranteed a starting place and that is with potentially a lot of business still to be done so we are in a pretty good place going into July. Nearest we have to guaranteed starters are Nardi, Dunne, Field and Varane.

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            • shaggy24
              Gold Seat
              • Apr 2016
              • 5799

              #156
              With the pace added in poku and a fit dembele chair has to release the ball quicker. Hopefully he can stay fit he regardless of others rating him he’s a good player

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              • SheepRanger
                Administrator
                • Apr 2018
                • 8370

                #157
                Chair is still very important to us and is a good player, but I genuinely can't see any team in the championship paying any where near £2.5m to buy him from us. There are plently of players out there in the UK and Europe who could do the same on free transfers or nominal fees.

                If he's not needed and we'll want to sell, I hope Im wrong.

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                • Mattyqpr
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3576

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Sleeping Giants
                  Not QPR but how do Birmingham get to spend £10 Million (although not immediately) and still fit within FFP. Are we all playing to the same rules or are they benefitting from their season in League 1 somehow?



                  And they're apparantly also linked to £5.5 Million signing of Demarai Gray. Just how?
                  Because their revenue has taken off since the takeover and is predicted to be north of £50m, which is double the majority of Championship clubs.

                  Similar to Wrexham, however Birmingham seem to be prepared to take hefty losses, whereas Wrexham are being cautious with their approach. Birmingham has the potential to go very wrong if they don't go up to the PL sharpish.

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                  • Sleeping Giants
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3215

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Mattyqpr

                    Because their revenue has taken off since the takeover and is predicted to be north of £50m, which is double the majority of Championship clubs. Birmingham has the potential to go very wrong if they don't go up to the PL sharpish.
                    Thanks. Their average attendances were about 4500 ish higher than us in a division lower I suppose but I can't see that alone explaining it but you also point out that they may be throwing an hail mary and rely on promotion to EPL. We will see I suppose.

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                    • topperharley
                      Silver Seat
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 2048

                      #160
                      I'm very happy with Chair as a squad player, he's not the talisman he once, kind of, was. Effective in some situations but detrimental in others.

                      If nothing else, the years have shown, especially as our budget has shrunk, squad depth with some quality is more important than individuals, we need people fighting for every position.

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                      • Isleworth116
                        Bronze Seat
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 679

                        #161
                        Doubt anyone will buy Chair. Shoots from crazy positions, 44 shots, 2 goals last season.

                        Smyth had 44 shots with one goal.

                        Whilst both decent players on their day, for me, end product not there. Tunnel vision when they get near area, blaze ball over bar.

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                        • shaggy24
                          Gold Seat
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 5799

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Isleworth116
                          Doubt anyone will buy Chair. Shoots from crazy positions, 44 shots, 2 goals last season.

                          Smyth had 44 shots with one goal.

                          Whilst both decent players on their day, for me, end product not there. Tunnel vision when they get near area, blaze ball over bar.
                          Smyth probably played more game last season on Dembele being injured for quite a while he don’t let us down but I can’t see him starting many games this season with Dembele and poku around

                          Chair last season never got going back injury followed up by other ones Saito did well as replacement be interesting to see if Sutton pushes him this season

                          With new faces coming in and development squad producing players hopefully we won’t be so reliant on chair to be main creator

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                          • Sleeping Giants
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3215

                            #163
                            Originally posted by lordflashhart
                            I was looking on the Lommel club site and Saito referenced nowhere. Fingers crossed we see some positive news quickly before other teams catch on.
                            I've seen a speculative "what if" article this morning suggesting Portsmouth should go for Saito as he is a free agent.

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                            • 3London
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3759

                              #164
                              we need Saito - otherwise everything is going to be Very right sided next season - Saito on the left is a must.

                              lets hope we don't lose him to another championship side.

                              also if last season is anything to go by both Saito and the Korean kid add a fair few extra fans each week.

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                              • Abseits
                                Silver Seat
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 4998

                                #165
                                We don't NEED Saito at all. He was a good solid loan player but we have plenty of diminutive tricky players now. If we do need a "lefty" I'd prefer a more speedy, direct and hefty one.

                                The new manager comes with the usual tag of "good at developing young players" - well maybe he can mould Kohli or Lloyd into bustling left-sided players who can get to the bye-line and/or cut in and attack the box?

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