JFH named

[qprjeff1882]

Open a can of worms then step back. Lots of publicity, paper sales but retain the power by not handing over the tapes.

If that ends up being the case then the police have a right to have them done for withholding evidence, surely.

[jmelanie]

Does anybody remember what happened in the expenses scandal which was also by the telegraph. Did they release the information to parliament?

[HoopDoggyDogg]

Just a thought..
Out of all the managers that The Telegraph could have set up in this.
Why choose JFH?
There must have been something there from the start that they felt was worth setting it all up.

[Bill]

Open a can of worms then step back. Lots of publicity, paper sales but retain the power by not handing over the tapes.

Because DT have far more conclusive evidence and are waiting to see how the clubs react.......can of worms you said it JFR

[Kevin Mcleod]

Just a thought..
Out of all the managers that The Telegraph could have set up in this.
Why choose JFH?
There must have been something there from the start that they felt was worth setting it all up.

They have done loads mate. Ten months investigation.
Eight prem managers been done and jfh, Barnsley bloke and Leeds owner.
The rest must of turned them down.

[Stanley]

Why not hand over everything, really don't make sense.

Because they have further dirt they wish to dish in the next installment of their serial.

If that ends up being the case then the police have a right to have them done for withholding evidence, surely.

The police only have that right if someone lodges a formal complaint to them. The only other scenario would be in court, if JFH sues the Telegraph for example.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Because they have further dirt they wish to dish in the next installment of their serial.



The police only have that right if someone lodges a formal complaint. The only other scenario would be in a court of law, if JFH sues the Telegraph for example.

Yes totally understand the sensationalism.
But each person you expose, hand over the full details to their employers as you go along.
Whats not doing that, doing to add to their cause?

[James1979]

Didn't realize there were 2 meetings with JFH.

[Stanley]

Yes totally understand the sensationalism.
But each person you expose, hand over the full details to their employers as you go along.
Whats not doing that, doing to add to their cause?

Perhaps it's because they have further stuff on JFH up their sleeves, or maybe even other QPR related evidence.

Or maybe it's because if QPR's investigation finds no evidence of wrong-doing it then portrays DT in a poor light.

The bottom line is there's no real reason why it's in their interests to play ball with QPR.

[stanistheman]

Can I just ask why oh why would JFH be worth 55k to give a speech. Afterall wtf has he ever achieved as a manager or come to that a player, to suggest he is worth anywhere near that amount?

Of course, this wasn't a fee for a speech, but rather something a lot more underhand.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Who knows Kevin. It's all speculation, but perhaps it's because they have further stuff on JFH up their sleeves, or maybe even other QPR related evidence. OTOH for all we know the transcripts and videos have already been handed over.

Yeah see what you mean, but they definitely have not handed over anything. Refused us and Southampton, all both clubs have to act upon is whats in the papers and their online site.
Hence impossible to sack anyone as its really not totally conclusive and a legal minefield.

[stanistheman]

Exactly. Forget his greed. If we're talking football decision only he has to go.

The one and only reason he should maybe be retained is stability. Problem with that is he's to stubborn and doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, so for me I'd get shot. He has had time and money and we are in decline, not improving. If he got another year, I'd almost guarantee we'd have another year of exactly the same thing.

The only stabilty we get from JFH is dire boredom during games and very few wins.

[stanistheman]

I thought that about Harry too. He used his excuses to cloud that he couldn't give a s**t about the club. At least you could see Warnock and Ollie had pride in what they were doing. And winning was everything to them. They both were visibly in love with the club and the atmosphere the fans showed the team when we played. The crowd played a massive part in us getting promoted under both of them. The crowd lifted the players immensely because those teams under those managers gave everything for the cause. If you have a manager who lives and breathes passion it lifts everyone around too, everyone buys into it. With JFH we don't have anything like Warnock or Ollie in fact it seems to be quite the opposite. Dull negative person giving us a dull and negative playing style and tactics. Crazy team formations when he has had the players to play them in their correct positions, dropping players next game when they have had a great game saying "he's young i don't want to burn him out". It's an hour and a half every three/four/seven days. When we were young we used to play more than that every night. Turning fans away by the thousands and causing more and more unrest as each game goes by. This alone is alienating fans and causing massive unrest with unwillingness to change things up to try and improve things is more than enough to get rid even before this latest episode. We need a manager that can set the team up with passing flair and an attacking mindset. Give the fans something to cheer and be proud of and you will get it back on matchday by having a full LOUD crowd who will be the 12th man and help make QPR and Loftus rd a force to be reckoned with. Sorry rant over.

Take a bow.

[HoopDoggyDogg]

Can't see how the Telegraph would bother with all this over JFH if not true.
Why would they go with it all, and risk being sued for millions over a story they have edited to expose JFH.

Most of the General Public probably have no idea who he is anyway.

Just can't see how the Telegraph would run with this, just over Jimmy.

[stanistheman]

Can't see how the Telegraph would bother with all this over JFH if not true.
Why would they go with it all, and risk being sued for millions over a story they have edited to expose JFH.

Most of the General Public probably have no idea who he is anyway.

Just can't see how the Telegraph would run with this, just over Jimmy.

As you say most of the general public dont know who JFH is and even less in the Far East, which is why I asked what makes him worth £55K for a speaking event.

It might be difficult if not impossible to prove he was about to do something wrong, but it does question his character. Do QPR really want him to stay on?