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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by oldskoolturk View Post
    Lost 6 in a row twice and 3 of the 5 wins in that good spell were against teams in the current bottom four. Has the worst ppg of any manager in the championship since TF took over.

    Put it this way. If it was JFH or Chris Ramsay in charge now would anyone be saying 'don't worry just wait till next season'

    He's gotta go and go now. Funny Holloway says about respect but I see it as a massive disrespect to the club and the fans to experiment with the team every game when there's still a quarter of the season left and you're not safe.
    Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
    fantastic post and nail on the head sir.
    Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
    Yep, anyone but Holloway and would be a lynching.

    Appalling appointment. He should either walk or, failing that, get sacked. Won't happen that said. No other team would put up with it. Embarrassing and shameful. What a laughing stock (yes even more so) this has made us.
    Originally posted by maidstone_hoop View Post
    Ollie doesn't seem to know our best 11. All these changes are so frustrating.

    A half decent manager with the players we have at the club would of had us mid table comfortably. Just need a consistent 11 and to play to our strengths.
    Originally posted by CroydonCaptainJack View Post
    Hitman with predictable thread start shocker
    Top replies guys.
    He was a headless chicken as a player and is the equivalent as a manager.

    Both he and The DoG should hang their heads in shame and quit or Fernandes should sack them. The G is for garbage.

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  • Hove Ranger
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    If anyone does fancy us to get relegated you can get 66/1. Just saying

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Fordy View Post
    QPR managers since February 2006 (who managed for 20+ games) ranked in order of their percentage loss rate. Makes for interesting reading:
    58.62% - Holloway (as at 22 April)
    56.25% - Hughes
    53.33% - Ramsey
    47.91% - Gregory
    47.82% - Waddock
    43.90% - Harford
    39.80% - Redknapp
    34.28% - Di Canio
    31.57% - Hasselbaink
    29.16% - Magilton
    28.57% - Warnock
    26.92% - Sousa

    Just seen this on another forum
    Makes him the perfect man for the job then, doesn't it.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
    You're on planet drama. We aren't going down and Holloway has kept us up. He needs to get us top 10 next season otherwise he has failed. Think we will have a good season tbh
    "Kept us up", were QPR rooted to the bottom 3 like Rotherham last season or Cardiff this one when Warnock took charge of them?

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  • Fordy
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    QPR managers since February 2006 (who managed for 20+ games) ranked in order of their percentage loss rate. Makes for interesting reading:
    58.62% - Holloway (as at 22 April)
    56.25% - Hughes
    53.33% - Ramsey
    47.91% - Gregory
    47.82% - Waddock
    43.90% - Harford
    39.80% - Redknapp
    34.28% - Di Canio
    31.57% - Hasselbaink
    29.16% - Magilton
    28.57% - Warnock
    26.92% - Sousa

    Just seen this on another forum

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
    Season was over ages ago. Definitely the right man to take us forward. Today's result was an obvious one as we've come up against a team bang in form. All about next season which it has been for some time
    Could not disagree more.
    If this season is over he should have had them playing in a settled formation and tactics. ready for next season, a bit like Warner and Jokanovic had done with Huddersfield and Fulham.
    I don't understand how you and others here think otherwise..
    You wait until October when the tune will change as it did with Ramsay and JFH.

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  • Kevin Mcleod
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    Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
    No comparing anything I do to what TF does. He's at a whole different level.

    Just saying, in any business you have decisions that go right and some that don't. The mark of success is getting enough right to achieve your objectives which TF clearly hasn't done with QPR..........or any other venture with the exception of Air Asia for that matter but that's a different conversation.

    I don't know how long we are gonna keep making excuses for him!
    I got about 250 million more to go.

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
    Tony runs a business as well mate, why dont you compare yours with his in a success sense, instead of comparing it with his hobby?


    Its far to simplistic to say it is how you are imo,...Running a football club is so different and a total minefield and only a few ever make any money or reach constant sucess.
    No comparing anything I do to what TF does. He's at a whole different level.

    Just saying, in any business you have decisions that go right and some that don't. The mark of success is getting enough right to achieve your objectives which TF clearly hasn't done with QPR..........or any other venture with the exception of Air Asia for that matter, but that's a different conversation.

    I don't know how long we are gonna keep making excuses for him!
    Last edited by Tarbie; 25-04-2017, 05:42 PM.

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  • topperharley
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    I like where this threads chat is at the minute.

    There maybe disagreements but it's a hell of alot more worthwhile than the 'ollie is a useless ####' etc etc.

    The club ain't in turmoil, but things are not hunky dory. Reckon afew good points on here as to why aswell....

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  • Kit
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    Originally posted by Cjskinz View Post
    Tony Fernandes trusted Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp - two established top flight managers. He gave them resources to make this a competitive club. They did not/could not do it.

    Tony Fernandes then implemented a DoF - Les Ferdinand - to make sure this silly spending stopped, as well as appeasing fans by bringing back a legend (who had all the qualifications needed to perform the role)

    This DoF, we assume, had a large say in appointing Chris Ramsey who by all accounts the players very much liked and Les knew him well and had worked together before so there was a good working relationship there. Then JFH was brought in, after the fans had been crying out for an up and coming manager. Again, didn't work out.

    Lee Hoos also brought in to cut spending in all other aspects of the football club. The man had just done a very successful job at Burnely.

    Football was barely being played and atmosphere was worse at Loftus Road than it had ever been. At least when Bosingwa was playing there was so much passion/hate towards him it created something in the stadium. Under JFH, there was nothing. Just nothing.

    Ian Holloway brought in to get atmosphere back, appease fans after having to watch sh*t football under JFH. Also a man who has spend the last 18 months studying championship teams, with previous experience of getting out of this division.

    What exactly do people want from the club? Spend money / don't spend money. Young up + coming manager / experienced manager. Promotion / build a good foundation.

    Looks to me they've found a middle ground. Spending a bit of money, with a middle aged manager with experience but unfortunately we aren't where we should be in the league
    Have to agree with you on the first point TF was let down by Hughes and Harry, although Harry did take us to Wembley and a win at Wembley which will never be forgotten. I genuinely feel sorry for TF said it many many times he deserves some luck even these safe appointments have gone against him. I certainly don't want TF to quit you just need to look at Blackburn, Coventry, Leyton Orient, Pompey etc etc to see what genuinely bad owners can do to the club, we have an owner who seems to care. Yes he's made mistakes but I would rather TF than someone unknown who could sell us down the river.
    Do think Olly is wrong appointment though.

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  • Kevin Mcleod
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    Tony runs a business as well mate, why dont you compare yours with his in a success sense, instead of comparing it with his hobby?


    Its far to simplistic to say it is how you are imo,...Running a football club is so different and a total minefield and only a few ever make any money or reach constant sucess.
    Last edited by Kevin Mcleod; 25-04-2017, 05:20 PM.

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by Cjskinz View Post
    Tony Fernandes trusted Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp - two established top flight managers. He gave them resources to make this a competitive club. They did not/could not do it.

    Tony Fernandes then implemented a DoF - Les Ferdinand - to make sure this silly spending stopped, as well as appeasing fans by bringing back a legend (who had all the qualifications needed to perform the role)

    This DoF, we assume, had a large say in appointing Chris Ramsey who by all accounts the players very much liked and Les knew him well and had worked together before so there was a good working relationship there. Then JFH was brought in, after the fans had been crying out for an up and coming manager. Again, didn't work out.

    Lee Hoos also brought in to cut spending in all other aspects of the football club. The man had just done a very successful job at Burnely.

    Football was barely being played and atmosphere was worse at Loftus Road than it had ever been. At least when Bosingwa was playing there was so much passion/hate towards him it created something in the stadium. Under JFH, there was nothing. Just nothing.

    Ian Holloway brought in to get atmosphere back, appease fans after having to watch sh*t football under JFH. Also a man who has spend the last 18 months studying championship teams, with previous experience of getting out of this division.

    What exactly do people want from the club? Spend money / don't spend money. Young up + coming manager / experienced manager. Promotion / build a good foundation.

    Looks to me they've found a middle ground. Spending a bit of money, with a middle aged manager with experience but unfortunately we aren't where we should be in the league
    Look, you can go through any failed business and find a scapegoat for everything that has gone wrong. The fact is the one common denominator is TF and the buck stops with him.

    I run a small business. I hire guys that work out and guys that fail. I make some decisions that make us money, and some that don't. The difference between success and failure is making sure you get enough right to get to where you want to be. Fernandes has consistently failed to do that!
    Last edited by Tarbie; 25-04-2017, 04:54 PM.

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  • Timmy the Doc
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    Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
    What you mean from 1987 backwards we have always had bigger crowds than chelsea, or do you mean for one season?
    Only for 1-2 seasons, tbh.

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  • Cjskinz
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    Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
    Dof les was not brought in to stop the silly spending. it was uncle bungle who was spending the money.

    it common that tony signed the likes of barton, park, samba, remy (fifa king).

    the dof was brought in after some fans were starting to point the finger at old bungle and les was used to deflect attention.
    Is it TF who bought Smithies and Luongo?

    *Edit: Also no issue with buying Remy... Park was Hughes. Barton was a panic buy when Warnock was in charge because we had no premiership quality. Samba was a manger signing too

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  • Hitman34
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    Originally posted by Cjskinz View Post
    Tony Fernandes trusted Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp - two established top flight managers. He gave them resources to make this a competitive club. They did not/could not do it.

    Tony Fernandes then implemented a DoF - Les Ferdinand - to make sure this silly spending stopped, as well as appeasing fans by bringing back a legend (who had all the qualifications needed to perform the role)

    This DoF, we assume, had a large say in appointing Chris Ramsey who by all accounts the players very much liked and Les knew him well and had worked together before so there was a good working relationship there. Then JFH was brought in, after the fans had been crying out for an up and coming manager. Again, didn't work out.

    Lee Hoos also brought in to cut spending in all other aspects of the football club. The man had just done a very successful job at Burnely.

    Football was barely being played and atmosphere was worse at Loftus Road than it had ever been. At least when Bosingwa was playing there was so much passion/hate towards him it created something in the stadium. Under JFH, there was nothing. Just nothing.

    Ian Holloway brought in to get atmosphere back, appease fans after having to watch sh*t football under JFH. Also a man who has spend the last 18 months studying championship teams, with previous experience of getting out of this division.

    What exactly do people want from the club? Spend money / don't spend money. Young up + coming manager / experienced manager. Promotion / build a good foundation.

    Looks to me they've found a middle ground. Spending a bit of money, with a middle aged manager with experience but unfortunately we aren't where we should be in the league

    Dof les was not brought in to stop the silly spending. it was uncle bungle who was spending the money.

    it common that tony signed the likes of barton, park, samba, remy (fifa king).

    the dof was brought in after some fans were starting to point the finger at old bungle and les was used to deflect attention.

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