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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostWhen we win we are crap.
When we lose we are even crapper.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostI wasn't.
I was shot down for loads on here for sticking to my guns and saying Ollie wasn't the best man for the job. I also pointed out on a load of occasions that we weren't as good a side as our winning run might have suggested.
When we lose we are even crapper.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostSix games ago we were all sh it ting roses.
Fickle world of football.
I was shot down for loads on here for sticking to my guns and saying Ollie wasn't the best man for the job. I also pointed out on a load of occasions that we weren't as good a side as our winning run might have suggested.
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Originally posted by James1979 View PostYeah I agree on staff but you mean from CEO (hoos) down to coaching staff. It's fernandes who hires the CEO and DoF I think. Others will be hired by DoF and manager etc. Cutting costs is pretty easy but picking right staff to take us forward that is difficult. That's why whilst some put hoos and Les as the dream team, I think they are bang average.
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Six games ago we were all sh it ting roses.
Fickle world of football.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostWhen I say "a hole", I don't specifically mean a financial hole. I was more referring to making the same mistakes and not moving forward.
I agree that financially we have smartened up a lot. Unfortunately this has lead to a period of austerity. In a perfect world, you would have taken what Fernandes spent in his first 2 years, spread it over 5 years and that may have actually worked.
My major concern is that we still can't seem to make smart decisions when it comes to staff. With the wrong people in charge we will continue to under achieve. I don't see anyone at the club that I feel is particularly competent, from Fernandes down to Ollie and his coaching team.
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Originally posted by James1979 View PostAnd these agents fees are being reduced. We have cut costs significantly. Tony and board are funding the shortfall required. Why is that a hole? They tried to buy success and it failed but they are paying for it.
DoF - difficult to argue with. However, this is partly due to cries of people wanting "QPR men" in as they "understand us". All rubbish of course. I would sack them all and bring some people with a) experience and b) who are actually good at their job.
I agree that financially we have smartened up a lot. Unfortunately this has lead to a period of austerity. In a perfect world, you would have taken what Fernandes spent in his first 2 years, spread it over 5 years and that may have actually worked.
My major concern is that we still can't seem to make smart decisions when it comes to staff. With the wrong people in charge we will continue to under achieve. I don't see anyone at the club that I feel is particularly competent, from Fernandes down to Ollie and his coaching team.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostHave you seen how much we are still shelling out to agents in installments from deals done years ago? We had the highest agency expenditure in the Championship last season.
We also have a DoF with no experience in a similar role, who has had very limited success with our club in the 2 seasons plus that he has been here. We have an incompetent manager and a million and one hangers on like Andy Sinton who are on the payroll and add zero value. Despite a 250m investment over the last 5 seasons, we are clinging on to Championship survival by the skin of our teeth, and the fans are unhappy again.
What is good about the way our club is managed?
DoF - difficult to argue with. However, this is partly due to cries of people wanting "QPR men" in as they "understand us". All rubbish of course. I would sack them all and bring some people with a) experience and b) who are actually good at their job.
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Originally posted by James1979 View PostWhy are we in a hole off the pitch? Last set of accounts would say that costs have come down significantly and we have minimal external debt.
We also have a DoF with no experience in a similar role, who has had very limited success with our club in the 2 seasons plus that he has been here. We have an incompetent manager and a million and one hangers on like Andy Sinton who are on the payroll and add zero value. Despite a 250m investment over the last 5 seasons, we are clinging on to Championship survival by the skin of our teeth, and the fans are unhappy again.
What is good about the way our club is managed?
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostWe need financial support because we are still paying a fortune in legacy costs as a result of years of poor management. I don't doubt that we need support from board level to keep operating at the level we currently are.
The point I am trying to make is that if we do not improve as a business, we will never get out of the hole we are in.
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Originally posted by West London is Rss View PostI don't agree with this remember when we were collecting buckets argument. That should never be used as an excuse to accept the current failings whatsoever - it's in the past.
How many wrong decisions and failings does it have to take for the majority of people to question things behind the scenes?
Will it always and forever be, 'oh well he's spending his hard earned money so lets just continually accept it and say 'unlucky Tony, here's a pint' after every bad decision'.
In any other walk of life, business, politics etc. if bad decisions get made and success isn't delivered, people get questioned and change is considered. Even more so when us as supporters are investing OUR hard earned money to see success or at least progress.
We all want the club to succeed but it doesn't mean we can't question the powers that be when they make the club look like a circus.
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Originally posted by James1979 View PostAlso if you look at our income, it's peanuts. We need financial support just to break-even in the championship.
The point I am trying to make is that if we do not improve as a business, we will never get out of the hole we are in.
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Originally posted by Cjskinz View PostSaying that, I still would give Ollie up til Christmas at least. Might invalidate any argument i've ever had but there we go lol
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Originally posted by James1979 View PostIt really worries me the views of some fans towards our owners. We will have absolutely no control over the next owner. It is a massive risk. We have a good asset in west london that could be sold up. We could be run just to break even with no concern for onfield performance. People seem to think owner is like taking an opinion on our useless management team!
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