Holloway Out

[stanistheman]

I just can't get my head around this brand new direction we are supposed to be heading in, with the wealthy owners we are supposed to have; it's now 2017 after 5 years of this ownership and this new direction, and we have Ian Holloway as our manager... Ian farking Holloway... The more I think about it the more I can't get my head around it.

This wasn't in the Fernandes master plan in 2013 was it? Being 5 years in and having Ian Holloway as our manager fighting a Championship relegation battle...
Who in their right mind would of had Ian Holloway at the top of their list for next manager 5 years ago? How did we get here FFS, Champions with Neil Warnock to Championship relegation fodder with Ian Holloway... Give me strength.

I wish I could understand that as well.
With the investment the owners have made, QPR should be at Premiership top ten side by now, not in a Championship relegation scrap.

If the owners are seriously interested in taking this club forward they should be putting out the feelers for a competent Chief Executive , football manager and perhaps a DoF and coach set up .

LF and IH must go.

[stanistheman]

With the greatest of respect your talking rubbish. They were booed off at Bristol City and at Brentford and the chants were Ollie sort it out!!!!! And if you class throwing the ball long to Smith as an improvement I really cannot agree

Genuine question how regularly do you attend games as what you posted is the opposite of the truth

I guess that the football is better in the sense that the players are more attack minded than they were under JFH's snoozeball. . However punting it long to Smith is not really entertaining to most fans either.

[stanistheman]

Don't agree four or five of us before allies appointment very accurately predicted how a Holloway reign would go. It was, and perhaps rightly, not appreciated by many posters but every concern raised has come home to roost. I have tried to stay out of the second round of debates about Ollie as I made my views clear first time round and did not want to highjack threads.

But from stupid threads praising him after initial few wins it's becoming clearer and clearer more fans are not impressed with him. It was obvious from Norwich it was going be disaster playing 10men for over 90mins and crawling over the line because he took best player off that day, his reasoning for this he wanted to see how the team played without player that was dictating the game in our favour!!!!! What logic is that and evidence he was tinkering from day one

As have always said like him he's good guy but he's a poor poor manager as we're seeing and suspect this will be his last managerial role in football. Long ball football, which is his stock position, in the main has gone we're going backwards

Well said and you are correct about the Norwich game.
I recall telling my brother that it was a lucky win against 10 men.

How different would things have been had they lost that game.
Would the board have been impressed with losing at home against 10 and then the losses that followed.

I wish I had refrained from posting replies as you rightly say many of us voiced our concerns about him being linked to and then appointed to the job.

I will be amazed if he is still in this job in early 2018.

[stanistheman]

Let's be honest... Ian Holloway is not going to be the manager to take us back in to the play-offs let alone the Premier League.
This is a bloke whose last managerial appointment was him getting sacked by Millwall, and a man who chucked the towel in at Palace for being 'exhausted' - more like inept...
I don't even know why he was appointed in the first place FFS.

He should be used as nothing more than a pit-stop after getting rid of JFH. At the end of the season it's time to get back to a proper managerial appointment, if this joker of a boardroom can get one right eventually.

I'm not saying I can predict the future but hands up who sees him leaving within a few months of next season, if he stays on over summer... me!!!

Me too and it will just be repeating this and last season.

[stanistheman]

That's part of the story but not all of it IMO, Cjskinz.

Confidence plays a massive role in any sport and it was sky high following that run. Building on that confidence, form and momentum there is no reason why it could not have continued into the next 6 games, regardless of the opposition. This was proven by our performances against teams higher up the table like Reading and Newcastle.

Three things went wrong however:

1) The timing of the international break (the same for all teams, granted).

2) Complacency set in - again one of sport's biggest pitfalls (IH's fault).

3) As a result of (2) and the assumption we were safe, he began experimenting and tinkering too much in preparation for next season and thereby took his eye off the ball (also IH's fault).

You are correct that confidence is key to a successful team and run of results.

You missed out a fourth.

That by changing the line up Holloway was not allowing the team to keep the momentum going.

[stanistheman]

My point is that they most likely get totally bewildered by all the chopping and changing when it comes to player selections AND tactics.

Not to mention frustrated angry or losing confidence. All in all bad man management.

Remember how Sylla and Wyszolek were forming an understanding and scoring before Holloway slated the former after the Reading game and screwed up the pair of them

[QPR Rickson]

When Brentford do the double over your side u know your clubs beyond help. I still can't believe the depths we've fallen .were just a joke . We can't do anything right

[stanistheman]

Its in excusable and he should pay the price for it.

[stanistheman]

There is no excuse for players managers staff switching off when we werent even nailed on mathmatically to stay up, but even if we was we should still have the mentality to want to win every game no matter what!

But that is just what IH has done.

[stanistheman]

What are you on about shania? i dont understand?! hey! i understand everything thanks lol, you should battle to the end of every game giving youre all but most players dont these days and in the past teams always have some players that dont, i as a player always came off the pitch completely burnt out as every player should be like that giving their all, but it just doesnt happen im afraid! so havnt a scooby what youre trying to tell me i dont understand tbh lol

Again you are blaming the players and not the manager.
Some managers like Allardyce, Pulls Mourinho Conte etc just dont allow their players to ease off.
They work them and more importantly drill into them the importance of workrateand effort etc. And if they dont pull their weight, they get dropped, and not just for 1 or 2 games whilst tinkering with squad rotation and formation.

[stanistheman]

I think this is where your argument loses credibility, stanis.

It's far too easy with the benefit of hindsight to claim you would have predicted that following a run of 7 games of five wins, a draw and a loss, that we would then go on another run of 6 defeats.

No it doesn't as I did predict those, but as I stated, I was on holiday abroad and was not posting on here.

[stanistheman]

Did you not read what ive last posted?! I havnt said one moment well done ollie for these last 8 games or so, the wheels have come off and shouldnt of done, we should of made sure things were safe before experimenting or changing the core of the team, a big mistake by ollie and the players for taking their feet off the pedal! Unprofessional and very stupid and inexcusable! But before that tipping point we were ok, everyone else has built up momentum while we've lost it big time and ollie needs to admit hes fooked up and the players! No excuses so where am i bigging up ollie for that?! And really hope we sort out some points now in last games and performance instead of relying on others! And then i look forward to next season where a more settled team will be hitting the top 10! Obviously if we do that youll be very quiet as you seem hell bent on ollie to not do any good as proved when we were playing some good stuff !

Ive already told you I am not fickle enough to criticize him and then applaud him for good and bad spells.
It is my opinion that he is not a good manager coach or tactician.

Only if and when he manages to prove me wrong by getting QPR to win or challenge for promotion will I praise him.

Will you want him out if he continues in this vein and QPR go on another poor run of results and form next season?

[Tarbie]

Ha after a few wins, how about at the start wanting him out after a few defeats, infact thibnk it started after 2 defeats lol, and you was one if not the most vocal on him being pants, i think hes showed what he can do in that spell even when we lost against some good teams where we played well but didnt get the results, so to call him a poor managers a joke, yes hes made a few c oo k ups but everyone in life does that, and its how you bounce back and learn from youre mistakes! but to call him once again about not being a good manager when had this team playing really wells a joke, knee jerking again and i understand as he has buggered things up when he shouldnt of done, but also the players have and youve said that yourself wests! hopefully we stay up & we keep ollie but build on what he was doing right next season as things were going in the right direction, then this thread will be brought back up like the others lol, but fingers crossed we sort out these two next games!

Not being funny Pinks, but Holloway's second spell in terms of points per game is the worst managerial record of any permanent QPR manager (bar Ian Hart) in the last 10 years. Worse than Ramsey, worse than Sousa, worse than JFH. I think you have to go back to Gary Waddock in 2006 to find a manager that has actually been worse in terms of picking up league points.

At what point are you gonna admit that you're hero ain't up to the job?

[norfolk ranger]

What, when he was taking Blackpool into the Play-offs?

How many years ago was that? Holloway is living off that one good achievement,anything he has done in last few years has been abysmal. Football has moved on from his one long ball tactic and and should we. Get rid of the clown regardless if we stay up or not.

[Kit]

Just read on BBC site that we have now equalled our worst ever home record and if we lose tomorrow will break it with 11 home defeats in one season. We have already set a record with 2 sets of 6 game defeats, surely that is indefensible. We actually had a better record when we got relegated from the Prem on 2 occasions not good reading. We have also only beaten Forest once in 11 games.