January Rumours

[Dono77]

Are we still talking to palmer from Bristol City? Seems to have gone quiet. He's not in their plans. They want him off the wage bill. No transfer fee. Surely a contract until the end of the season is pretty straight forward unless he's being stupid with wage demands or he's not fit enough to play straightaway? Or were we never in talks to start with??? Lol!!

[Jeffqpr]

Jeff, conversations sometimes go off on tangents, apologies for my part in leading it

No worries Kev & it’s quiet on rumours at present everywhere

[KevC59]

Jeff, conversations sometimes go off on tangents, apologies for my part in leading it

[KevC59]

I agree that some of our time in the prem was a disaster, I will never forgive Mark Hughes for the way he went about things, but I would hope lessons would have been learned from how that was handled and I think the current management structure is hopefully better equipped to manage things, I just want the best for my club, and I dream of being back among the best as I'm sure we all do, the thing I really don't want to see is a lack of ambition and settling for mediocrity

[Jeffqpr]

Thought this was a rumour thread? Just a thought & nothing happening, oh & Cook signed for Forest there’s a surprise

[KevC59]

I said to mates and family 5 years ago, I would take a period of mid table mediocrity, if we just built a team that was solid enough to compete in the premier League, maybe it's too soon for some right now? Look, I've supported Rangers for over 50 years now, I've seen us at our very best, and our very worst ,and when we have been good we have been very good, ok I have stated in other threads that we have punched above our weight at times this season, but why not dream big, when is ever going to be the right time otherwise? How would another five years grinding in the championship make us any better than we are now? There is talent and heart in this team right now, ok it's painful sometimes I agree, but if we miss out this year, then for sure this team will break up, then it's back to square one

[topperharley]

Here's the thing though Kev, it isn't the doldrums for all of us, I think The Championship is the most competitive league in the world, anyone beats anyone on the day and most teams can dream of a play off run, of course you have to be ambitious and strive for promotion! Our last few forays into the EPL weren't much fun for me, there were moments but overall it was just a question of trying not to lose with mercenaries and plastic fans! Leeds, Stef U, and others have shown it can be done right but the fun doesn't last long with oil barons and corporate giants owning the top 6!

It is much more fun in the Championship, we could win lose or draw every game, sounds obvious but going up against Spurs or Liverpool every other week it's just not as 'possible'. This team in my opinion is over performing, credit to the characters, manager and staff for that. We need more than a plucky attitude to compete up there though.

I would like to see the team go up when it is ready, but like having a child you're never really ready. I think the heavy fixture load highlights our lack of depth in certain areas, but our lack of quality in certain areas will be miserable to watch in the premier league. Our 2010 team was a good unit to go up and stay up but the owners thought better of it, was always going to be a struggle.

Relevant to this thread, if we were to go up it is vital we keep a core and add to those weak areas, preferably with permanent signings with room to grow. Our Jan windows are such that retaining key players is as good as a signing. Then in Summer if offers come in and we not promoted, they may have to move on. I think we are a year or two away from realistic Premier League promotion and optimism.

[gator]

So how long would people like to spend in the doldrums? Personally I would like to see the step up ready or not, it will be a battling ugly season for sure, but in the event we got through it, that would surely attract better players to the club, stagnation is not good for the club, we have to move forward somehow, surely?

Here's the thing though Kev, it isn't the doldrums for all of us, I think The Championship is the most competitive league in the world, anyone beats anyone on the day and most teams can dream of a play off run, of course you have to be ambitious and strive for promotion! Our last few forays into the EPL weren't much fun for me, there were moments but overall it was just a question of trying not to lose with mercenaries and plastic fans! Leeds, Stef U, and others have shown it can be done right but the fun doesn't last long with oil barons and corporate giants owning the top 6!

[KevC59]

So how long would people like to spend in the doldrums? Personally I would like to see the step up ready or not, it will be a battling ugly season for sure, but in the event we got through it, that would surely attract better players to the club, stagnation is not good for the club, we have to move forward somehow, surely?

[gator]

I would be extremely confident that we have a long list of loan and L1/2 players for short term and long term options.

I hate the premiership with a passion and would be happy to see us being a top 8 championship club which is sustainable by selling those players on for £50m and seeing enjoyment in the new batch coming through. I want to see my team winning most games not getting thrashed in the prem and being on the wrong end of ref decisions to the big clubs.

All the prem us good for is £300m from one season there and parachute money. I love the championship as a competition and theres nothing wrong with knowing your place in life! I know one Leeds home and away season ticket holder who wouldnt mind being back in the championship.

I agree with this, the Premiership is no fun whatsoever for a club our size in today's time of huge money signings and greed! I do think however our goal obviously should be promotion to try to tap into those big $$$ to help the club, I can tolerate a season of hardly winning for that result! My feeling now is that we are not ready for the EPL and if this team was promoted even with additions it would be a very ugly season so I wouldn't mind if we cash in right now on saleable assets and rebuild with new and possibly better players, we could sell Chair, Dickey, Dikes and Dieng and still be in mid table and have a good bit of cash on hand to cautiously buy in a longer less impulsive transfer window!

[lincoln ranger]

Collectively worth about the price the a happy meal

Lol! Bit harsh that mate! Seems no sense keeping players if you’re not going to play them? Better getting a could in who could push and jostle the first team picks who keep getting the nod ahead of those mentioned. Plenty of up and coming talent in the lower league 1 or 2 we could develop and turn into quality Championship players.

[topperharley]

IF we have to sell BEFORE we buy to raise funds to reinvest (if we are that skint?) shouldn’t we be looking to sell/offload fringe players, out of contract at end of season or players who DO NOT impact our first team selection rather than our prized assets to survive? Obviously I’m talking about the likes of Barnes, Kakay, Ball, Thomas and Owens.

Collectively worth about the price the a happy meal

[lincoln ranger]

IF we have to sell BEFORE we buy to raise funds to reinvest (if we are that skint?) shouldn’t we be looking to sell/offload fringe players, out of contract at end of season or players who DO NOT impact our first team selection rather than our prized assets to survive? Obviously I’m talking about the likes of Barnes, Kakay, Ball, Thomas and Owens.

[Jeffqpr]

Will we improve or lose players in the transfer window?....It's a double edged sword.

Find out in 4 weeks

[Sleeping Giants]

Will we improve or lose players in the transfer window?....It's a double edged sword.