Cifuentis

[topperharley]

Official from club - `On gardening leave`

Not seen that for a coach ever really? He's off for sure...

[Sleeping Giants]

Marti has been placed on gardening leave and won't be in charge against Sunderland. It's on the official club website.

[DJ Hooper W12]

Ainsworth kept us up by luck and other teams getting point deductions. Not his fault but he should never have been appointed.
I am 62 now and supported Rangers since my first game in 1970. Most managers here have tried to play attacking , passing football., bar the odd few. We are well known throughout football for being a club that likes to play good football with a flair player in the 10 shirt , along with teams like West ham , Spurs and so on.
We have got a few flair players in our squad but Marti is not a flair manager , he plays negative tippy tappy sideways and backwards football and hopes to nick a result , rather than take the game to the other team , play on the front foot and attack . If we lose so be it , i would rather lose this way than keep losing the way Marti plays.

A good post you covered all bases there. Things have changed in football managers and players don’t stay for years on end they follow their bank balance and as for the clubs point of view if it’s not working then cheerio. What in reality are our expectations for next season with Marti. And our under performing team much of the same l fear. I’m sure we all hate coating the team but as I’ve said before we are QPR and l want us to be a force not a farce

[SheepRanger]

Ainsworth kept us up by luck and other teams getting point deductions. Not his fault but he should never have been appointed.
I am 62 now and supported Rangers since my first game in 1970. Most managers here have tried to play attacking , passing football., bar the odd few. We are well known throughout football for being a club that likes to play good football with a flair player in the 10 shirt , along with teams like West ham , Spurs and so on.
We have got a few flair players in our squad but Marti is not a flair manager , he plays negative tippy tappy sideways and backwards football and hopes to nick a result , rather than take the game to the other team , play on the front foot and attack . If we lose so be it , i would rather lose this way than keep losing the way Marti plays.

The points deducted had no impact on our survival in 22/23

- Wigan we're deducted 3pts and without that would have finished on 42 pts

- Blackpool didnt have any points deducted and finished on 44 pts

- Reading were deducted 6pts and without that would have finished on 50 pts

- Cardiff didn't have points deducted and finished on 49 pts.

- We finished on 50 pts

Reading's points deduction meant Cardiff avoided relegation, not us. The team was in free fall after the latter stages of Beale's tenure and Critchley. Gareth was the third manager that season and scraped the points together that kept us up on merit.

I'm not saying he's the best manager, but he did see us over the line.

[Hope & Faith]

I'm working near West Brom today, and the local rumour is that WBA don't have the funds to buy, or even compensate for Marti leaving...
The big rumour is, as has been stated elsewhere, is that Dunne is leaving and Furlong coming back to QPR...

[FurtiveFox]

Not many managers last two or more seasons these days. In our position anyone decent will be poached by a club higher up the food chain. That is why I believe clubs like Brighton have the right approach. It is more about the club than individual managers so there it has not been difficult for them to slot in managers painlessly when they have needed to. I get the impression we are trying to get to that stage here but it will take time. Despite the trials of this season and last we are seeing signs the club are trying to do things differently.

WBA do offer better promotion prospects and probably quite a lot more money. That said they have their own issues so not necessarily straightforward.

That Marti is getting linked with them and likes of Norwich paints a picture of someone who is rated at Championship level so can move up a bit but not rated so highly he is linked with upper level Championship/lower Premiership jobs.

Wouldn't surprise me if he left or stayed. If the former sooner the better so we can get someone in quick.

[Fraggy]

You have to have revolving management until you find the right one , especially when you have a small budget like us.

But how many more seasons do we keep replacing while looking for the right one?

I understand all the comments made by posters wanting MC out.
Tippy happy and sideways has not just been Marti, but also a few before him.
I just believe it take more than 2 seasons for a manager to get the full squad he wants & playing the way he wants.

[shaggy24]

You have to have revolving management until you find the right one , especially when you have a small budget like us.

Hard to not have revolving door when Snake Beale decided grass was greener NC and GA were never the right appointments in the first place

Also make be smoke blowing from MC agents to sound out if club will back him and may not have actually spoken to WBA but sounding out plans for summer

[Harrow QPR]

Fed up with the revolving management.
This feels like groundhog day.

At some point we have to roll the dice and give a manager at least 2 full seasons (preferably 3), before we start demanding they leave.
How are we ever going to build something if we keep changing the foundations every 1 to 1.5 seasons?

I hope commonsense prevails, but somehow, I doubt it will.

You have to have revolving management until you find the right one , especially when you have a small budget like us.

[Harrow QPR]

This would be the same Ainsworth who kept us up the season before after the terrible performances under Beale's last 4-6 weeks and Critchley?

Gareth did what he was brought in to do, was given an opportunity to season after and it didnt work out.

Also, he worked under the last year of major financial constraints, which were loosened this season for Marti's full first season.

Gareth's resign was in part hindered by the team given to Warburton as a promotion push. That was boom or bust and it nearly bust us for the next two seasons.

Gareth and Marti have both done their bit keeping us in this league. Ive read as much bad press on this MB of both managers' teams.

Ainsworth kept us up by luck and other teams getting point deductions. Not his fault but he should never have been appointed.
I am 62 now and supported Rangers since my first game in 1970. Most managers here have tried to play attacking , passing football., bar the odd few. We are well known throughout football for being a club that likes to play good football with a flair player in the 10 shirt , along with teams like West ham , Spurs and so on.
We have got a few flair players in our squad but Marti is not a flair manager , he plays negative tippy tappy sideways and backwards football and hopes to nick a result , rather than take the game to the other team , play on the front foot and attack . If we lose so be it , i would rather lose this way than keep losing the way Marti plays.

[Hope & Faith]

Fed up with the revolving management.
This feels like groundhog day.

At some point we have to roll the dice and give a manager at least 2 full seasons (preferably 3), before we start demanding they leave.
How are we ever going to build something if we keep changing the foundations every 1 to 1.5 seasons?

I hope commonsense prevails, but somehow, I doubt it will.

Bang on. 100% wisdom.

A time for stability.

[Fraggy]

Fed up with the revolving management.
This feels like groundhog day.

At some point we have to roll the dice and give a manager at least 2 full seasons (preferably 3), before we start demanding they leave.
How are we ever going to build something if we keep changing the foundations every 1 to 1.5 seasons?

I hope commonsense prevails, but somehow, I doubt it will.

[topperharley]

He's not a good Championship manager.

13 wins all season with 7 coming between Nov 27th and Jan 21st. Who did we beat in that burst of form....

Home wins against: Norwich, Watford, Luton, PNE and Oxford
Away wins against: Cardiff, Plymouth and Hull

Norwich and Watford are both in bottom half of table, the rest are down or threatened by relegation. With hindsight, our run of form was mostly due to the way the fixtures fell - we played the division's duffers basically. Yeah it's good we beat them, that's what saved our bacon from the drop.

Since that spurt fizzled out at end of January we've won just four further games.... PNE, Derby and Oxford (relegation strugglers) and Blackburn. Rovers, currently 8th, are the ONLY team in the top half of the table we have beaten this season. I think that is a shocking stat. It's a hard one to go back and verify but I suspect that there is no other former manager of a full season here who hasn't done better against the top half of the table.

The best you can say about Marti is he won the mini-league of plodders and duffers and kept us up. You're welcome to your opinion if you think that makes him an excellent manager but I don't... the thought of 46 more dull Martiball games to finish 17th again makes me very depressed. He's a one-dimensional egotist who was always using us as a toe-hold to get into the country with the highest paying league in football. We've now served our purpose and he wants out. Now, I don't mind a bit of ambition and of course we will see our employees move onwards to better things. BUT the deal is you put a shift in here first. He's leaving us no better off than when he arrived, any bullshine "project" he had in mind long went out the window, it's like we've pissedaway 18 months on him.

The most damning bit is that he signed an extension barely 6 months ago when he knew this season was kaput due to his massive winless run, he knew the backroom structure, he knew the finances, he knew the hierarchy, he knew the players and he knew the kids. For him to be now moaning and whining about "the set-up" is laughable in the extreme... I'd chuck the chancer out of the club tonight if I had my way.

Anyway, is all moot.... I don't want him and he don't want us, he can get lost and we're both happy.

You can't disagree with facts and you've dropped some.

I'll devils advocate for a moment and suggest, how could Marti or anyone else have gotten much more out of this squad. In his defence, yes injuries and yes afew new players that have not paid off, how much influence he had on those signings bears signifcance in either defending or lambasting him on this point.

On the other hand, and this is why I would like to see him here next summer, he has shown that with a good starting 11 he can play attractive, winning football. I do believe that he over thought many of the games this season and he'll learn from it. Perhaps he plays this way to attract the attention of Prem teams who play in a similar manner, and it's not the best setup for our squad. Though are we not suposed to have a defined style, dictated by the club now? Is this where there is a falling out?

Burnley was shocking, and we've had afew of those. Did Marti throw his toys out the pram like Warbs did?

Fundamentally, same as Warbs, i'd like him to stay, and adapt to the squad and play to it's strengths. If he can't adapt or wants to move on, then i guess it's see ya who's next.

I'm just not stoked on the revolving door, because in reality unless we strike absolute gold with a coach and squad that unite like no other, we'll be battling relegation and 'building' once again, before the season even starts.

Statements are meaningless, just look at the snake, but i would like to hear from Marti or the board on this.

[72bus]

As I said Saturday our team back pass more to nardi , than we do forward to kolli....
Not the type of football I want to watch .

[SheepRanger]

Good post . I can't believe a lot of our fans think he's Pep Guardiola. Yes last season he kept us up after the terrible performances of AINSWORTH'S team but we have been terrible this season bar about 5 games and i think next season would be more of the same if we kept him , same old boring football every game until we inevitably concede the first goal then start playing . Get rid of him , if we get compo then blinding

This would be the same Ainsworth who kept us up the season before after the terrible performances under Beale's last 4-6 weeks and Critchley?

Gareth did what he was brought in to do, was given an opportunity to season after and it didnt work out.

Also, he worked under the last year of major financial constraints, which were loosened this season for Marti's full first season.

Gareth's resign was in part hindered by the team given to Warburton as a promotion push. That was boom or bust and it nearly bust us for the next two seasons.

Gareth and Marti have both done their bit keeping us in this league. Ive read as much bad press on this MB of both managers' teams.