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Last edited by nasser95; 19-10-2015, 10:00 PM."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by Ruislip Ranger View PostMe voting out of the Euro is a negative post. Care you back that?"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostStats will always pertain to us. The issue I see with your original post is that you state we have no financial backing, no tactical nouse, no great players and no experience. And yet, you forget that we have had all of these recently, just never together. We have financial backing with great players but no tactical nouse (yet) and limited experience at this moment in time. With HR here for a long time we had Financial backing, Good players in general and plenty of experience but no real tactical nouse. With MH here we had Financial backing, Tactical nouse (to a degree, although he showed capability of it in the past and more recently), with (some) great players but no experience. And with Warnock here, we had Tactical nouse, one great player, plenty of experience but no financial backing for a long time. So all of this does pertain to QPR, just because the examples i've used don't doesn't mean the concepts they run can't.C'Mon You Supaaaa!!
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostThey named a role the 'Claude Makelele' role. Its that simple yet effective player who isn't particularly talented, isn't creative, can't do much in the box, isn't tall, but he makes simple passes to creative players and breaks up play effectively and efficiently. That's the makelele role.
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Originally posted by QPRDave View PostNass, if I say The water Carrier, you'll know who I mean. At Chelsea before Makelele."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNo no I get that, But they actually named the role the makelele. Like, you can type into google makelele role and you'll get loads of things coming up.
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Nasser a bit of devils Advocate (you know I'm usually on your side)
Warburton left Brentford as the owner stated he wanted to use stats and analysis to identify players and who should ultimately play - they currently sit 19th (I grant you we aren't that far in to the season) but so far it seems that thus policy doesn't work to date in the championship...
Just thought I'd mention it (not to say that stats don't gave their place as I believe they do but aren't the be all and end all)
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Originally posted by Awin View PostNasser a bit of devils Advocate (you know I'm usually on your side)
Warburton left Brentford as the owner stated he wanted to use stats and analysis to identify players and who should ultimately play - they currently sit 19th (I grant you we aren't that far in to the season) but so far it seems that thus policy doesn't work to date in the championship...
Just thought I'd mention it (not to say that stats don't gave their place as I believe they do but aren't the be all and end all)"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by Awin View PostThis is the stat that worries me though -
P. W. D. L. % won
Queens Park Rangers England 2 February 2015 Present 28 8 5 15 28.57%"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Luigi do canio had 12 wins 11 draws 12 loses but the football was exciting and every game - even when we lost - felt like everyone gave their all - I am not certain that claim could be made of the football we have largely seen under CR.
I think when a manager loses the fans no matter the cause it can only go downhill from there. I am aware that managers largely don't affect results but they do affect entertainment value.Last edited by Awin; 20-10-2015, 12:22 AM.
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Originally posted by Awin View PostLuigi do canio had 12 wins 11 draws 12 loses but the football was exciting and every game - even when we lost - felt like everyone gave their all - I am not certain that claim could be made of the football we have largely seen under CR.
I think when a manager loses the fans no matter the cause it can only go downhill from there. I am aware that managers largely don't affect results but they do affect entertainment value."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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