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In fact, lets add to this, of your 5 posts, 3 have pertained to the club, all of which have been negative posts relating to whatever you are replying to. Thats an incredible 60% negativity rate and an even more interesting 100% Negativity on the Home fans section. Pretty impressive that you've managed to outdo most people on here. Keep it up.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostOooh 5 posts in and you're giving me 5h1t. There's a stat for you to enjoy."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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They named a role the 'Claude Makelele' role. Its that simple yet effective player who isn't particularly talented, isn't creative, can't do much in the box, isn't tall, but he makes simple passes to creative players and breaks up play effectively and efficiently. That's the makelele role.Originally posted by bakes8 View PostYou're obviously not suggesting Claude Makelele invented the Defensive Midfield position?"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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You mean the Nobby Stiles role? Only people who have only watched football since sky sports have taken over would call it the 'Makelele' position bud.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostThey named a role the 'Claude Makelele' role. Its that simple yet effective player who isn't particularly talented, isn't creative, can't do much in the box, isn't tall, but he makes simple passes to creative players and breaks up play effectively and efficiently. That's the makelele role.
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The fact that you haven't made the assumption that I'm not old enough to have watched Stiles based on my username suggests that you criticise or look down upon others for no reason whatsoever.Originally posted by bakes8 View PostYou mean the Nobby Stiles role? Only people who have only watched football since sky sports have taken over would call it the 'Makelele' position bud."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Always hopeful to bring wit wherever I go mateOriginally posted by West Acton View PostI know I should not laugh but that made me howl
And that was quite a witty reply to Nas
"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Nope. That's you that said that. You said without Claude Makelele going to Chelsea we wouldn't have a position that now exsists. This is a complete nonsense bud, and his position and the role he played in it has been played out for decades.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostThe fact that you haven't made the assumption that I'm not old enough to have watched Stiles based on my username suggests that you criticise or look down upon others for no reason whatsoever.
Not having a go at your stats bud, they're hit and miss but I quite like them, but the Claude Makelele statement is miles off.
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Also, from what I've heard, Nobby Stiles was very much about hyper aggression while makelele was intercepting and closing down the potential passes as opposed to the players themselves. Two very different styles that ultimately may have reached the same goals but the route is extremely different.Originally posted by bakes8 View PostYou mean the Nobby Stiles role? Only people who have only watched football since sky sports have taken over would call it the 'Makelele' position bud."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Vieria, Franky van der Elst, Stefan Bailey, Johnny Giles, any of these play the Makelele role? Come on bud, you're being silly.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostAlso, from what I've heard, Nobby Stiles was very much about hyper aggression while makelele was intercepting and closing down the potential passes as opposed to the players themselves. Two very different styles that ultimately may have reached the same goals but the route is extremely different.
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None of them did. He was a very very unique player. He didn't have any of the physical attributes these players had and yet he held the position like no other.Originally posted by bakes8 View PostFrank Rijkaard, Patrick Vieria, Franky van der Elst, Stefan Bailey, Johnny Giles, any of these play the Makelele role? Come on bud, you're being silly."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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