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  • MattyRangers
    Slimmer of The Year
    • Jun 2011
    • 24914

    #61
    Originally posted by Nodge70
    The guy gets us promoted as runaway champions with, let's be fair, a "workmanlike" squad and a temperamental yet sometimes unplayable court jester.

    Bit of respect wouldn't go amiss.
    Exactly mate.

    One bad/terrible game and people start saying he cant handle the PL?! Fickle. Very very fickle.

    The arguement that he has failed twice before is irrelevent; look at the squads he had to work with during his previous attempts, some awful players. Would be like saying, at the time of his move over to Brawn, that Jenson Button was a terrible driver and cant cut f1 racing because of his record with past teams.

    Warnock will do well with us this year, no doubts about it in my mind. There will be ups and downs, Foolham probably wont be our last tonking this season, we just need to make sure that when we do get beaten we dont dwell on it and dust ouselves off and move onto the next game.
    You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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    • Mellowhoop
      Gold Seat
      • Apr 2010
      • 5698

      #62
      Im not arguing he's a top manager and brilliant for us...if he walked out on us I wonder if he would still not bein called Colin by some. I don't call him it but don't think it's that big a deal. I respect my old man but u still call him a tw@t.
      http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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      • QPRDave
        The number 10
        • Mar 2009
        • 32080

        #63
        Thankyou Ric, Nodge ,Matty can't add anything to what you've said

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        • Mellowhoop
          Gold Seat
          • Apr 2010
          • 5698

          #64
          You have got some backers dave... Where were they when you needed them???
          http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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          • cujimmy
            Apprentice
            • Oct 2009
            • 105

            #65
            Originally posted by MattyRangers
            Exactly mate.

            One bad/terrible game and people start saying he cant handle the PL?! Fickle. Very very fickle.

            The arguement that he has failed twice before is irrelevent; look at the squads he had to work with during his previous attempts, some awful players. Would be like saying, at the time of his move over to Brawn, that Jenson Button was a terrible driver and cant cut f1 racing because of his record with past teams.

            Warnock will do well with us this year, no doubts about it in my mind. There will be ups and downs, Foolham probably wont be our last tonking this season, we just need to make sure that when we do get beaten we dont dwell on it and dust ouselves off and move onto the next game.
            What's fickle is fans like you singing abuse at managers like Colin when they were in charge of other clubs. Now all of sudden he's the dogs b0ll0cks and we must refer to him as Sir. Sod off! Couldn't care less about Colin.

            The argument is hardly irrelevant btw. Claiming he had crap players? The players you refer to were his own signings.

            Anyway... I've never said we should sack him. He's done a good job so far... give him some more time. I hope he succeeds. It's just I don't like the bloke after having listened to him shoot his mouth off over the years. He should learn to be more humble.

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            • qprbrisbanedivision
              Silver Seat
              • Jun 2011
              • 1338

              #66
              Originally posted by Mellowhoop
              Im not arguing he's a top manager and brilliant for us...if he walked out on us I wonder if he would still not bein called Colin by some. I don't call him it but don't think it's that big a deal. I respect my old man but u still call him a tw@t.
              Apparently, he is really bothere dby it...you tell that by the wat he never shuts up about it........oh sorry, he doesnt....

              So should we ban all nick names for our players, staff and fans then ?

              If you go to work and someone calls you a Colin...do you spend alll day moaning about it ..or get on with your life....

              Oh yeah, sorry for not being as intelligent as you because i use the term Colin.....and for being a *****....what ever that is supposed to be...?

              Really...is there nothing better to do on this site than find stupid idiotic reasons to argue with each other?....do we not support the same team? are we not allowed to have our own opinions and ideas or do we all have to do what you say...?

              Really need to find something to complain about boys....I'd actually be interested to find out how many die hard QPR supporters actually called him a "colin" on sunday?....a few i bet !!!!

              Move on guys and lets try to get rid of the reputation of this site as one that constanly argues amogst itself.........then again......? maybe thats the point?

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              • Mellowhoop
                Gold Seat
                • Apr 2010
                • 5698

                #67
                Nw is in a v good position and deservedly so... If we stay up he stays up and if we go down he stays as IMO he is the best championship manager in history.
                http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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                • qprbrisbanedivision
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1338

                  #68
                  Originally posted by cujimmy
                  What's fickle is fans like you singing abuse at managers like Colin when they were in charge of other clubs. Now all of sudden he's the dogs b0ll0cks and we must refer to him as Sir. Sod off! Couldn't care less about Colin.

                  The argument is hardly irrelevant btw. Claiming he had crap players? The players you refer to were his own signings.

                  Anyway... I've never said we should sack him. He's done a good job so far... give him some more time. I hope he succeeds. It's just I don't like the bloke after having listened to him shoot his mouth off over the years. He should learn to be more humble.
                  Absolutely spot on....i thought he was a "colin" then and still think the same....I'm glad he's our colin but dont expect me to change my view because he works for us.....!
                  Wonder what you'll all be calling him in 2 years when he leaves us ?

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                  • qprbrisbanedivision
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1338

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mellowhoop
                    Nw is in a v good position and deservedly so... If we stay up he stays up and if we go down he stays as IMO he is the best championship manager in history.


                    Competing with Peter reid and Curbs in my opinion....and one of them didnt do so well in the top div....!!

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                    • QPRDave
                      The number 10
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 32080

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mellowhoop
                      Nw is in a v good position and deservedly so... If we stay up he stays up and if we go down he stays as IMO he is the best championship manager in history.
                      Good point Mellow,have to admit thats how I saw things too

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                      • QPRDave
                        The number 10
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 32080

                        #71
                        Originally posted by qprbrisbanedivision
                        Apparently, he is really bothere dby it...you tell that by the wat he never shuts up about it........oh sorry, he doesnt....

                        So should we ban all nick names for our players, staff and fans then ?

                        If you go to work and someone calls you a Colin...do you spend alll day moaning about it ..or get on with your life....

                        Oh yeah, sorry for not being as intelligent as you because i use the term Colin.....and for being a *****....what ever that is supposed to be...?

                        Really...is there nothing better to do on this site than find stupid idiotic reasons to argue with each other?....do we not support the same team? are we not allowed to have our own opinions and ideas or do we all have to do what you say...?

                        Really need to find something to complain about boys....I'd actually be interested to find out how many die hard QPR supporters actually called him a "colin" on sunday?....a few i bet !!!!

                        Move on guys and lets try to get rid of the reputation of this site as one that constanly argues amogst itself.........then again......? maybe thats the point?
                        No it doesn't!!!

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                        • qprbrisbanedivision
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1338

                          #72
                          Oh yes it does..........

                          Behind you....

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                          • Mellowhoop
                            Gold Seat
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 5698

                            #73
                            Brisbane are you having a go at me??? I have always said that I don't see a problem with it, but if what people are saying is true and e doesn't like it then I change my opinion.
                            http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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                            • QPRDave
                              The number 10
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 32080

                              #74
                              Originally posted by qprbrisbanedivision
                              Oh yes it does..........

                              Behind you....

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                              • MattyRangers
                                Slimmer of The Year
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 24914

                                #75
                                Originally posted by cujimmy
                                What's fickle is fans like you singing abuse at managers like Colin when they were in charge of other clubs. Now all of sudden he's the dogs b0ll0cks and we must refer to him as Sir. Sod off! Couldn't care less about Colin.

                                The argument is hardly irrelevant btw. Claiming he had crap players? The players you refer to were his own signings.

                                Anyway... I've never said we should sack him. He's done a good job so far... give him some more time. I hope he succeeds. It's just I don't like the bloke after having listened to him shoot his mouth off over the years. He should learn to be more humble.
                                Fans like me singing abuse at him when he was at other clubs? Well, I'm slightly worried that you know exactly what I sang at games years ago (restraining order may be needed).... HUGE assumption and, quite frankly, a very inaccurate one.

                                Yes he may have signed some of the players in his own squad, but signings are restricted by your clubs financial clout, which neither Notts County nor Sheff Utd had much of, hense having to sign players on a budget (ie Jon Stead & Matt Kilgallon).... which we were having to do pre-TF takeover (which if hadnt happened we would be languishing in the relegation zone, Im sure of it- doesnt mean NW would have been a worse manager than he is now does it?).

                                Fair enough if you dont like him, youre probably not on his Christmas card list this year either, but he is the manager of the side we all support and pay to follow so lets get behind him and give him our full support without such petulant little digs at him.

                                We'll agree to disagree eh
                                You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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