Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Formation 4-6-0

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • MattyRangers
    Slimmer of The Year
    • Jun 2011
    • 24914

    #256
    Originally posted by dsqpr
    Its funny how so many people can look at the same video and see different things. I must admit, sometimes I look at it and think the ball did not change direction and other times I see it clearly change direction!

    For me the key fact is that the striker is running forward towards the left of the goal and by pushing the ball forward he would have headed towards goal in that direction. Yet the ball ends up going across the face of the goal, in the exact direction of Clint's tackle.
    That aside though, Clint tugs his foot down - nailed on foul IMO.
    You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

    Comment

    • Shepherds Mush
      Platinum Seat
      • Nov 2012
      • 10325

      #257
      Although it looks like a foul to me it is still too close to call in slow-mo therefore correct decision by the ref...end of

      Comment

      • dsqpr
        Silver Seat
        • Sep 2012
        • 3433

        #258
        Originally posted by MattyRangers
        That aside though, Clint tugs his foot down - nailed on foul IMO.
        Totally agree Matty, it is 100% a foul as I said earlier. I was just talking about whether Clint got a touch on the ball, which is actually irrelevant in deciding whether it was a foul.
        'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

        Comment

        • brightonr
          Banned
          • Mar 2009
          • 10922

          #259
          Originally posted by MattyRangers
          That aside though, Clint tugs his foot down - nailed on foul IMO.
          Put yourself in Clint's position for a moment.

          You've just made a last ditch attempt at winning the ball and are still in the process of going to ground. The bloke you tackled took off at a rather wierd angle (based upon the fact that he flies upwards, far more than the minimal contact would cause him to). Are you really not only thinking that quickly, but managing to make the decision to and perform the act of catching his boot?

          If the blokes knee had hit Clint in the face, someone will be saying that he tripped him with his head next.

          Comment

          • QPRDave
            The number 10
            • Mar 2009
            • 32061

            #260
            Originally posted by brightonr
            Put yourself in Clint's position for a moment.

            You've just made a last ditch attempt at winning the ball and are still in the process of going to ground. The bloke you tackled took off at a rather wierd angle (based upon the fact that he flies upwards, far more than the minimal contact would cause him to). Are you really not only thinking that quickly, but managing to make the decision to and perform the act of catching his boot?

            If the blokes knee had hit Clint in the face, someone will be saying that he tripped him with his head next.
            Exactly Brighton.....what do people want on this board

            Comment

            • West Acton
              CCG
              • Dec 2009
              • 21475

              #261
              Originally posted by brightonr
              Put yourself in Clint's position for a moment.

              You've just made a last ditch attempt at winning the ball and are still in the process of going to ground. The bloke you tackled took off at a rather wierd angle (based upon the fact that he flies upwards, far more than the minimal contact would cause him to). Are you really not only thinking that quickly, but managing to make the decision to and perform the act of catching his boot?

              If the blokes knee had hit Clint in the face, someone will be saying that he tripped him with his head next.
              The touch on ball is debatable the grab at the foot is intentional from my viewing and even more intentional slowed down. He knew what he was doing but as and old pro that's the experience you build up. He took a chance and it paid off so well done to him

              Comment

              • dsqpr
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2012
                • 3433

                #262
                Originally posted by West Acton
                The touch on ball is debatable the grab at the foot is intentional from my viewing and even more intentional slowed down. He knew what he was doing but as and old pro that's the experience you build up. He took a chance and it paid off so well done to him
                Exactly West. Those of us who say it was a foul aren't knocking Clint for doing it!
                'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

                Comment

                • QPRDave
                  The number 10
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 32061

                  #263
                  He kicked Clint's hand

                  Comment

                  • nasser95
                    Gold Seat
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7216

                    #264
                    My opinion is that he's gone there with a tackle and obviously balancing with his two hands. Yes he knows intrinsically that this guy can't get past but the guy brings his foot all the way up into his hand as he is bringing it down to his side. He's not exactly able to do anything else to be honest. For me, that still isn't a red.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

                    Comment

                    • West Acton
                      CCG
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 21475

                      #265
                      Originally posted by nasser95
                      My opinion is that he's gone there with a tackle and obviously balancing with his two hands. Yes he knows intrinsically that this guy can't get past but the guy brings his foot all the way up into his hand as he is bringing it down to his side. He's not exactly able to do anything else to be honest. For me, that still isn't a red.
                      If it was the other way and Fer going through would you want a foul?

                      Comment

                      • nasser95
                        Gold Seat
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 7216

                        #266
                        Originally posted by West Acton
                        If it was the other way and Fer going through would you want a foul?
                        I would want it naturally, not saying they wouldn't want it the wednesday fans, but I don't think it is a foul. Look at the way his body moves, he's trying to bring his arm down to the side and the guy's foot gets caught.
                        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

                        Comment

                        • West Acton
                          CCG
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 21475

                          #267
                          Originally posted by nasser95
                          I would want it naturally, not saying they wouldn't want it the wednesday fans, but I don't think it is a foul. Look at the way his body moves, he's trying to bring his arm down to the side and the guy's foot gets caught.
                          So if it's not a foul why would you want it

                          Comment

                          • nasser95
                            Gold Seat
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7216

                            #268
                            Originally posted by West Acton
                            So if it's not a foul why would you want it
                            Because that is assuming I was a wednesday fan. Naturally a close call, you'd want it to go your way. But in this case, it could have gone either way but I think that by the book it would have been a very harsh foul on further viewing.
                            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

                            Comment

                            • West Acton
                              CCG
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 21475

                              #269
                              Nas are you a Buddha as your one of the most placid non confrontational individuals I have ever encountered

                              I know I often snap at you but I'm trying to make effort to live in your world, I have to be honest I'm struggling, and see things from your perspective under the guise of positivity but come on there must be times when you look on the pitch and think 'you bunch of S hit kants'

                              Comment

                              • nasser95
                                Gold Seat
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7216

                                #270
                                Originally posted by West Acton
                                Nas are you a Buddha as your one of the most placid non confrontational individuals I have ever encountered

                                I know I often snap at you but I'm trying to make effort to live in your world, I have to be honest I'm struggling, and see things from your perspective under the guise of positivity but come on there must be times when you look on the pitch and think 'you bunch of S hit kants'
                                Not really, I get pissed at matches. I think this must be the 25th time I've said that here. I just don't see the point being angry after the match. Positivity is more valuable an asset. Belief does more than fear.
                                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

                                Comment

                                Working...