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  • Yousef
    Gold Seat
    • Jul 2009
    • 9553

    #46
    Originally posted by Hitman34
    10 mil from arsenal plus the 2 mil loan from newcastle. not bad if you ask me.

    how many games did he play for us? and we made a 4mil profit.
    12M that's great in two seasons.
    QPR fan since1987

    @yousef_qpr

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    • W12_Ranger
      Platinum Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 11447

      #47
      Originally posted by jmelanie
      http://www.danielgeey.com/buy-out-re...ll-the-basics/
      Here is some information on release clauses (buy out clauses only seem to be in Spain). Release clauses are generally only under certain circumstances and I believe that on this occasion it was if the Club was in the Championship. This is no longer the case. All of the reports are stating that Remy has agreed terms with Arsenal. There is nothing about QPR having agreed to any transfer. I think this transfer could become very complicated.
      I think you have point

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      • Busheyboy
        Silver Seat
        • Jul 2012
        • 1190

        #48
        if there is no release clause, we're being mugged off at £10 million (if that is the fee)

        lots of if's here

        no one really seems to know

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        • QPR Richard
          Gold Seat
          • Sep 2011
          • 6489

          #49
          I hope that any contracts for new players don't have release clauses in them. If we unearth a gem or two, I wouldn't want them waltzing off for pennies.

          I also hope wages will be linked to whatever division we're in.
          Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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          • DeepcutHoop
            Gold Seat
            • Dec 2009
            • 6965

            #50
            Originally posted by jmelanie
            http://www.danielgeey.com/buy-out-re...ll-the-basics/
            Here is some information on release clauses (buy out clauses only seem to be in Spain). Release clauses are generally only under certain circumstances and I believe that on this occasion it was if the Club was in the Championship. This is no longer the case. All of the reports are stating that Remy has agreed terms with Arsenal. There is nothing about QPR having agreed to any transfer. I think this transfer could become very complicated.
            Why do you believe that?

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            • jmelanie
              Gold Seat
              • Aug 2011
              • 7525

              #51
              Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
              Why do you believe that?
              This

              "It is a clause in a player’s contract that, subject to qualifying conditions (i.e. a particular transfer window or non-participation in the Champions League), automatically requires a club to accept an offer of a pre-determined contractual amount expressly set out in the contract from the offering club. If the minimum amount stipulated in the contract is triggered by a the purchasing club, the player will be entitled to speak to that club."

              When he signed for us a qualifying condition would hardly have been for this transfer window (after he has been with the club for 18 months) and the only other condition as far as I can see would have been if we were not in the Premiership.

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #52
                Originally posted by QPR Richard
                I hope that any contracts for new players don't have release clauses in them. If we unearth a gem or two, I wouldn't want them waltzing off for pennies.

                I also hope wages will be linked to whatever division we're in.
                Works both ways we cannot expect a player to sign a contract which says his wages drop if we get relegated if we don't give him the option of getting away if we did drop for a set fee

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                • DeepcutHoop
                  Gold Seat
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 6965

                  #53
                  Originally posted by jmelanie
                  This

                  "It is a clause in a player’s contract that, subject to qualifying conditions (i.e. a particular transfer window or non-participation in the Champions League), automatically requires a club to accept an offer of a pre-determined contractual amount expressly set out in the contract from the offering club. If the minimum amount stipulated in the contract is triggered by a the purchasing club, the player will be entitled to speak to that club."

                  When he signed for us a qualifying condition would hardly have been for this transfer window (after he has been with the club for 18 months) and the only other condition as far as I can see would have been if we were not in the Premiership.
                  It seems likely to me that he wanted a chance to prove himself in the Prem in that second half of the season, and if it went well, to be able to move on without QPR restricting him moving on by asking too high a price. Beyond a huge wage, why else would he have joined us over someone like Newcastle for example?

                  His personal situation is the thing that has drawn this out beyond the 6 months it was expected to last.

                  Reality is, we have absolutely no idea what is in the contract.

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                  • QPR Richard
                    Gold Seat
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 6489

                    #54
                    Originally posted by West Acton
                    Works both ways we cannot expect a player to sign a contract which says his wages drop if we get relegated if we don't give him the option of getting away if we did drop for a set fee
                    I don't know for sure, but Remy seems to be on the same wages and has a buyout clause. That's the kind of situation we need to avoid.
                    Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                    • DeepcutHoop
                      Gold Seat
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 6965

                      #55
                      Originally posted by QPR Richard
                      I don't know for sure, but Remy seems to be on the same wages and has a buyout clause. That's the kind of situation we need to avoid.
                      We were desperate at the time, and had a chance to bring in some real quality for the second half of the season.

                      I think we did what we needed to to get him in. You'd hope we don't need to do it again.

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                      • scuberry
                        Silver Seat
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1882

                        #56
                        Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                        It seems likely to me that he wanted a chance to prove himself in the Prem in that second half of the season, and if it went well, to be able to move on without QPR restricting him moving on by asking too high a price. Beyond a huge wage, why else would he have joined us over someone like Newcastle for example?

                        His personal situation is the thing that has drawn this out beyond the 6 months it was expected to last.

                        Reality is, we have absolutely no idea what is in the contract.
                        No we don't but when TF has already said in public that Remy has NO buy out clause i think i'd tend to believe him over the daily fail !!

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                        • WeAreQPR12
                          C Club
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23551

                          #57
                          Originally posted by scuberry
                          No we don't but when TF has already said in public that Remy has NO buy out clause i think i'd tend to believe him over the daily fail !!
                          Are you a q block peter davies fan too?
                          I played sunday league football today.

                          Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                          I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                          We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                          • scuberry
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1882

                            #58
                            Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
                            Are you a q block peter davies fan too?
                            Who ???

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                            • Stanley
                              Guest
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 23693

                              #59
                              Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                              Beyond a huge wage, why else would he have joined us over someone like Newcastle for example?
                              In a word - London. Lure of the location. That was the received wisdom, plus we were matching their salary offer if not bettering it.

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                              • DeepcutHoop
                                Gold Seat
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 6965

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Stanley76
                                In a word - London. Lure of the capital city lights etc. That was the received wisdom, plus we were matching their salary offer if not bettering it.
                                Very possibly, I still think that he never intended to be a QPR player after those 6 months. And I think we'd have needed to have included a set fee for him to leave, to get him to sign.

                                His agent held all the cards in any negotiation that's for sure, and we shouldn't be surprised that any clause was not to our benefit.

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