Cifuentis

[SheepRanger]

Shaun Derry said on Talksport it's not the first time Marti has spoken with other clubs. If that's the word inside football it's no wonder our players have not been fully motivated.

SNAKE II

[cross it Dave]

I wonder if that s a breach of contract, if it is, sack him today.

[DJ Hooper W12]

I won't come down on him until some of these rumours become facts , that aside his football was boring and a hard watch .
I for one won't be sad if he's off .
First and foremost it's the badge and supporters that matter to me .... Nothing else ....managers will come and go like the badge kissing mercenary players .

Agree,just bought my season ticket on the strength of this news. No great loss if it’s true

[eam1882]

Apparently he's not on wba list.
talk about shoot yourself in the foot.

[SheepRanger]

I wonder if that s a breach of contract, if it is, sack him today.

We'd lose out on compo then.

[Stanfan]

I wonder if we acted before last game as this saves us his bonus. He talked a lot about achieving targets of late!

[72bus]

Agree,just bought my season ticket on the strength of this news. No great loss if it’s true

Got mine today too , my boy sit in the loft he's been to 3 games in 2 seasons but buys a ST .... Only he knows why .

[Abseits]

Got mine today too , my boy sit in the loft he's been to 3 games in 2 seasons but buys a ST .... Only he knows why .

Bloody hell! I've been beating meself up for not going to gym for 6 weeks despite coughing up £19.99 a month.. I don't feel so bad now

[cross it Dave]

We'd lose out on compo then.

Ah, thank Sheep’s for pointing that out, lovely weather for planting all the spring bedding plants.

[WeAreQPR12]

He's still 2/1 for the job so that tells me he is on the shortlist regardless of the noise however Ryan Mason is the fav at 5/4 odd one really because he literally has zero experience just coaching badges and interim at spurs

[SheepRanger]

Ah, thank Sheep’s for pointing that out, lovely weather for planting all the spring bedding plants.

Indeed.....lovely and I must remember to put my hat on so I dont burn me bonce!

[WeAreQPR12]

Even this amazing weather doesn't lift the grey skies over lotus road. He was the perfect manager to rebuild us and I think norrey has definitely lost my confidence.

[SheepRanger]

Even this amazing weather doesn't lift the grey skies over lotus road. He was the perfect manager to rebuild us and I think norrey has definitely lost my confidence.

He lost my confidence as soon as I saw Madsen play and found out he threw £3.2m at him. Madsen's like a poor man's Nick Ward.

Sometimes I think we're better off without money because when we spend money on a transfer fee the majority tend to flop.

[WeAreQPR12]

He's a university graduate that thinks he knows it all at 27, worrying times with this squirt involved

[Abseits]

Fed up with the revolving management.
This feels like groundhog day.

At some point we have to roll the dice and give a manager at least 2 full seasons (preferably 3), before we start demanding they leave.
How are we ever going to build something if we keep changing the foundations every 1 to 1.5 seasons?

I hope commonsense prevails, but somehow, I doubt it will.

I think you would struggle to find any genuine evidence to support the idea that giving managers time, say at least 2 whole seasons, actually achieves any benefits.

Ignore outliers at big-mega clubs and focus on normal sized clubs, clubs we cross swords with.

I thought up 15 random clubs. I say random but I consciously tried to think of 5 clubs with recent times likes us, 5 who've gone up and 5 who've come up.

I have not counted caretakers or interim managers as far as I know...

Here they are and how many managers they've had over past 5 years:

5 QPR
6 Millwall
4 PNE
5 Swansea
7 Cardiff
5 Saints
5 Wolves
4 Norwich
5 Bourmemouth
5 Forest
3 Portsmouth
5 Ipswich
4 Luton
4 Bristol City
5 Sunderland

We are not out of kilter at all. we are par for the course. There is no obvious correlation between sticking with the same manager for a long time and success. Indeed, Ipswich kissed a lot of frogs before unearthing McKenna - if they displayed the sort of forbearance you want and fretted over having a "revolving door" they probably wouldn't have got to him.

If our new manager is not cutting it after 23 games then remedial action has to be on the table. Trying to mitigate his failure by referencing our budget, a stiff run of fixtures or injuries must only be done in the context of them being expected hurdles he's paid to negotiate.

The only caveat on this I'd want is we'd have to have a credible replacement lined up - no point launching a manager unless a new guy can be in harness within a couple of weeks maximum. I'm not sure where we stand with Marti's departure and if club has candidates in mind? Maybe being on brink of a 4 week footballing shutdown gives us a bit a bit of extra time? Overall, I'd be staggered if the club wasn't constantly scanning the horizon for the next manager, that'd just be normal contingency and resilience planning any business would do. There must be names on a list somewhere in Nourry's desk.