Sorry Ian - Ollie Out

[Pinkie]

Yet Ollie would disagree with them being his signings. Does your boy's views count for nothing?

Yer starting to look abit silly now mate with youre anti ollie thing

[FurtiveFox]

Ollies players furtive, case closed

Yet Ollie would disagree with them being his signings. Does your boy's views count for nothing?

[FurtiveFox]

Nothing contradictory about them mate. I've explained the process and also explained that in my eyes, the majority of the players signed recently look very much like targets Ollie would have suggested.

With Luke Freeman, there is the Bristol link, and Ollie has always kept a close eye on players in his home town. Then with Scowen and Smith, they just look to me like Ollie players. The type of player we've been looking at in general since Ollie came in is just very different from the rest of the Les Ferdinand era. The only real exception being Ravel Morrison, who I'm sure was actually a signing that TF and Les wanted, I've heard on the grapevine that Ollie was never behind that signing at all.

Of the course, of the 2 paragraphs in the previous reply, the 2nd paragraph is my opinion, whereas the first is factual. But they aren't contradictory in any way.

Well first paragraph says recruitment a group effort. Second one says all down to Ollie ...

However looking at it overall we have signed I think two very good players, Freeman and Scowen. Rest have been ok, bulked out the squad, not cost much, so fine.

Looking at transfer policy though has it really been successful? As has been said many times we play a system which allows for wing backs, we don't have any wing backs and have not recruited any. We have though recruited multiple wingers for a team that doesn't play with wingers. Seems odd. Is that Les' fault or Ollie's? People moan we haven't signed strikers but Ollie has said we have four superb strikers so was that given a real priority?

Looking at current (non-Ollie era signings) only Luongo seems to have flourished under the messiah. In fact three of our arguably better players have gone backwards. Pawel is a shadow of his previous self being played consistently out of position. In my view one of the best wingers in this division. After all his personal and injury difficulties I saw enough of Yeni last season to be excited about what we would see this season. What we have seen is very little and out of position. Sylla is by far our best finisher based on last season yet completely out of sorts. Not suited to current style of play. Could see players like this leaving.

Some people say Ollie gives yoof a chance. All we have seen is Furlong as a regular and Manning on fringe. A criticism of Ollie in the old days was he would always stick with his favourites regardless. Youngsters may not be good enough but no basis for some pushing Ollie as the champion of yoof at this club.

A good manager would play the team to their strengths and if they had a preferred system would gradually build the team around this over time if current players didn't work in it. If we had a good manager who did this think we would have decent chance of top 10 this season. As it is if Ollie stays all season (which I think is likely) I would expect 16-24th. You can only get so far with badge kissing and chest beating.

[Tarbie]

Your first two paragraphs are contradictory ...

However basically you have repeated what I said so I'll let you off!

Nothing contradictory about them mate. I've explained the process and also explained that in my eyes, the majority of the players signed recently look very much like targets Ollie would have suggested.

With Luke Freeman, there is the Bristol link, and Ollie has always kept a close eye on players in his home town. Then with Scowen and Smith, they just look to me like Ollie players. The type of player we've been looking at in general since Ollie came in is just very different from the rest of the Les Ferdinand era. The only real exception being Ravel Morrison, who I'm sure was actually a signing that TF and Les wanted, I've heard on the grapevine that Ollie was never behind that signing at all.

Of the course, of the 2 paragraphs in the previous reply, the 2nd paragraph is my opinion, whereas the first is factual. But they aren't contradictory in any way.

[Pinkie]

Your first two paragraphs are contradictory ...

However basically you have repeated what I said so I'll let you off!

Ollies players furtive, case closed

[FurtiveFox]

I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

Your first two paragraphs are contradictory ...

However basically you have repeated what I said so I'll let you off!

[brightonr]

Let's just be grateful we didn't get Gareth Southgate.

[Pinkie]

I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

Thanks tarbie hopefully thatll shut furtive up but i very much doubt it lol

[dogsrrs]

I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

[Tarbie]

Mother Holloway there you are!

According to your lad the process is:

He and Les meet. Ollie tells him types of players he would like to sign. Might throw a couple of names in while he's at it. Les goes away and consults with scouts and comes back with a list. He and Ollie agree who club should go for and off Les goes. Sounds very much like a team effort.

I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

[Rebel R's]

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[dogsrrs]

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[FurtiveFox]

Are you still going on?! yes les just sorts the paperwork and fine details out but just ignore that for youre own self honestly furtive i thought id give it a break as it gets seriously boring me bleating on and you going on and on on every single thread ollie hasnt a clue! its just boring everyone & should bore yerself too as ive bored myself with trying to reply just a thought......

Mother Holloway there you are!

According to your lad the process is:

He and Les meet. Ollie tells him types of players he would like to sign. Might throw a couple of names in while he's at it. Les goes away and consults with scouts and comes back with a list. He and Ollie agree who club should go for and off Les goes. Sounds very much like a team effort.

[Pinkie]

Fair point Pinks, but he wouldn't get any complaints with me. He's never given Shodipo or Eze a proper go in the team from my perspective, and I think that's a real shame. Plus we're crying out for some cutting edge and pace in attack.

I agree with you hubbs id like to see them used more, especially when some players arent on form for the first team, as tarbie will tell you im a shodipo fan but i think theyd fit in well the way we go at teams personally.

[Hubble]

Hubbs id say more bothered by if he did integrate more and we lost or should i say draw he`d get hammered, especially on here

Fair point Pinks, but he wouldn't get any complaints with me. He's never given Shodipo or Eze a proper go in the team from my perspective, and I think that's a real shame. Plus we're crying out for some cutting edge and pace in attack.