Sorry Ian - Ollie Out

[Pinkie]

Could play 4-3-3 with fullbacks overlapping as necessary. But we just don't have the forwards, and this has been such a glaringly obvious problem for ages it's scandalous nothing has been done to remedy this. I mean, our forwards are crap in any formation, let's be honest. Washington should have been sold, if possible, maybe Sylla too. From what I've seen young Eze looks the real deal but he's been loaned out. I've said it elsewhere, but for me one of Ollie's biggest flaws is his failure to properly integrate youth in the team. He seems scared of their talent. All totally subjective, I accept, but that's how it seems to me.

Hubbs id say more bothered by if he did integrate more and we lost or should i say draw he`d get hammered, especially on here

[Pinkie]

He has been managing for donkeys years. If he doesn't get tactics now he shouldn't be managing.

Whilst I'm sure Ollie has had important input into the club's signings he himself has said Sir Les does this.

As I have said before would make a great assistant manager. I'm sure many on here are passionate about the club. Doesn't mean we should all be appointed joint managers!

Are you still going on?! yes les just sorts the paperwork and fine details out but just ignore that for youre own self honestly furtive i thought id give it a break as it gets seriously boring me bleating on and you going on and on on every single thread ollie hasnt a clue! its just boring everyone & should bore yerself too as ive bored myself with trying to reply just a thought......

[Cjskinz]

We have a good thing going with those 3 in the middle and you want to change it? Sounds like a much maligned manager to me...

[stanistheman]

Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.

442 might lose the dynamic trio, but Freeman can play on the left wing and beat his full back as well as put in great crosses for either Smith or Sylla to get on the end of. If Washington is also in the side, we would them see what he is capable of (although I'd probably give Wheeler a chance).

[Hubble]

Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.

Could play 4-3-3 with fullbacks overlapping as necessary. But we just don't have the forwards, and this has been such a glaringly obvious problem for ages it's scandalous nothing has been done to remedy this. I mean, our forwards are crap in any formation, let's be honest. Washington should have been sold, if possible, maybe Sylla too. From what I've seen young Eze looks the real deal but he's been loaned out. I've said it elsewhere, but for me one of Ollie's biggest flaws is his failure to properly integrate youth in the team. He seems scared of their talent. All totally subjective, I accept, but that's how it seems to me.

[Shepherds Mush]

Equally why play a system for wing backs when you haven't signed any.

Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.

[stanistheman]

Or wing backs bearing in mind we play with a system that allows for wing backs and not wingers ...

However would be churlish to blame Ollie solely for this given my previous post. Ollie has input into signings but is not in charge of them. Why sign a bunch of wingers when you don't play with wingers?

Equally why play a system for wing backs when you haven't signed any.

He has been managing long enough to know that he should play to the players' strengths and in this case neither Bidwell or Wyzsolek are wing backs and Mackie with Washington as a strike duo is not working nor is it likely to.

[stanistheman]

Weare, That is a very fair reflection on how things are with Holloway. No one can deny his passion for us and in that respect we are lucky. Tactically and team selections are where he just falls shorts, Maybe with a more clued up number 2 than Bircham it would work better.

Talking of number 2s reminds that his best time at QPR was with Kenny Jacket and once the latter left he lost his way.

[stanistheman]

I am a big Ollie fan I think his signings have been shrewd and the passion and desire is for all to see. I do however thing he comes up short. It is starting to annoy me and I do think he is lacking in the tactics department. I am with pinks as Holloway is definitely the man for us but with the players we have in our squad we are underachieving. I am still not having this Washington is sh it behaviour. I am still waiting for Holloway to play a striker that will aid young Connor. If we had smith and Washington upfront I am convinced we would score more goals. The anti Holloway fans should appreciate the signings we've made. He has clearly worked miracles with no money so deserves the rest of the season for that reason alone. I am very grateful allbeit frustrated in the mean time.

I agree about his signings, but not about giving him the whole season. If QPR drop into the bottom 3, he is not going to be able to lift them out of it. I wouldn't even wait until they do drop that low.

[stanistheman]

Because he had a cushy number with Sky and told his boss the only job I'll ever leave you for is the QPR one.....and whether you wish to believe that version of events is your choice :-)

I seriously doubt that is true. I think that line about QPR is just another soundbite from him to endear himself to the fans.

[stanistheman]

I'd agree Ollie seems able to motivate but you lost me on tactics! He got sacked first time around due to weird team selections, tactics and subsequent loss of form. He doesn't seem to have learned much in the intervening years.

As I have said elsewhere think he would be a great assistant manager to run the line and gee up players but at this level you need someone with more tactical nouse to be the main man. Aside from a six month spell with Palace Ollie has been dire over last five years. All managers (bar Sir Alex!) seem to fade in the end and, rightly or wrongly, I believe Ollie has had his day at this level and should be managing in lower leagues. Why else did he not get a job in the top two divisions for 18 months until we were mug enough to come along?

Agreed 100%.

[Rangers77]

You're grumpy and wrong

[Shania]

We should have bought a player like Chris Wood ages ago. I often think we makes it more difficult to find a striker than it really is.

[Cjskinz]

I would imagine there are a number of reasons...

I know, hence the "wishful thinking" part

At bare minimum we need someone who can score goals on loan for half a season just to tide us over until summer. should be plenty of time for Penrice and co to find a gem

[WeAreQPR12]

Or wing backs bearing in mind we play with a system that allows for wing backs and not strikers ...

However would be churlish to blame Ollie solely for this given my previous post. Ollie has input into signings but is not in charge of them. Why sign a bunch of wingers when you don't play with wingers?

Fair pt fox. Bidwell isn't comfortable in opposing half so pretty daft not to play a flat back four