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  • FurtiveFox
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    Originally posted by Pinkie
    Im really glad youre supporting youre team again and manager
    Have always supported my team.

    Very glad we now have a world class manager. My only disappointment is our lack of Champions League football this season.

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by Kirill
    Of course, 13 is unlucky number.
    Ha...genius

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  • Kirill
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    So if we are 13th at Christmas, Holloway will have to go !!!?
    Of course, 13 is unlucky number.

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by FurtiveFox
    Can't believe it took me so long. Am thinking of getting a T-shirt done 'Ollie is God.' Would you like one too?

    I will ask for heavy duty ink so all the chest beating doesn't make the wording fade too quickly.
    Im really glad youre supporting youre team again and manager

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  • FurtiveFox
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    Originally posted by Pinkie
    Good lad i knew youd start believing
    Can't believe it took me so long. Am thinking of getting a T-shirt done 'Ollie is God.' Would you like one too?

    I will ask for heavy duty ink so all the chest beating doesn't make the wording fade too quickly.

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by Pinkie
    No i meant last time we got rid of ollie mush, was about the same position was we not!
    Aha...probably.

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  • CroydonCaptainJack
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    Originally posted by Kirill
    If at Christmas we still linger in the bottom half of the table, Holloway will have to go. Otherwise we will end up in the relegation scrap.
    That is a special 'Kirill fact' is it?

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    17th when JFH got the boot....?

    If we are 13th at Christmas I'll be celebrating, as I've been told by a number of experts that we are a Legue 1 side already. Certainly won't be chopping the manager if we are mid-table.
    No i meant last time we got rid of ollie mush, was about the same position was we not!

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by Pinkie
    Think we got rid last time when we was about same position so why not! reckon if we get rid we can get a much better manager and try to start getting some belief and fighting spirit & then the new better manager can sign some decent new players
    17th when JFH got the boot....?

    If we are 13th at Christmas I'll be celebrating, as I've been told by a number of experts that we are a Legue 1 side already. Certainly won't be chopping the manager if we are mid-table.

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    So if we are 13th at Christmas, Holloway will have to go !!!?
    Think we got rid last time when we was about same position so why not! reckon if we get rid we can get a much better manager and try to start getting some belief and fighting spirit & then the new better manager can sign some decent new players

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by FurtiveFox
    I feel far happier following our not conceding over last weekend. Hopefully we can maintain this and look a lot more solid going forwards.

    Ollie for England!
    Good lad i knew youd start believing

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by Kirill
    If at Christmas we still linger in the bottom half of the table, Holloway will have to go. Otherwise we will end up in the relegation scrap.
    So if we are 13th at Christmas, Holloway will have to go !!!?

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  • Kirill
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    If at Christmas we still linger in the bottom half of the table, Holloway will have to go. Otherwise we will end up in the relegation scrap.

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  • Cjskinz
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    Originally posted by stanistheman
    I think you are missing the point here. If money was the obstacle in getting wing backs, you don't go out and sign wingers and then not use them.

    As for Pavel playing 15 yards further back not being a reason effecting his game, how about him being concerned that there is no one covering behind him should the attack break down?

    The 'secret' to winning games is to play your players in their positions and in a system that they can thrive in.
    A winger playing 15 yards further back and a full back playing 15 yards further forward should not make a difference to their game. That is what Scowen is there to do (and he does) is cover them should an attack on their side break down.

    Pav no longer takes his man on, no longer getting any good crosses in and his finishing has been poor. He's missed a few good opportunities lately. Bidwell just doesn't have the pace to be an attacking full back.

    I completely agree and haven't argued against the point we should have bought wing backs rather than wingers. However, would you have used the money we paid for Pawel in January on a wing back rather than him?

    The problems on the pitch are quite simple and don't really have anything to do with playing people out of position. We are going through a very bad injury crisis in our defence, and we don't have a natural born goalscorer

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Cjskinz
    Agreed, players been played slightly out of position. Pav 15 yards further back than he should be, Bidwell 15 yards further forward than he should be, but I really don't think that should ruin their game.

    As for not signing wing backs if this 3-5-2 was going to be his staple formation then 100% we should have signed some rather that sign wingers who can play as strikers, did not make one bit of sense and still doesn't.

    However, could all come down to budget. Was there any wing backs available for same money say as Bright (approx £500k-£750k) that have the same quality and same potential? I think Pav and Bidwell are plenty good enough in those wing back roles. Not good enough to make a push for promotion but fine for mid table, and fine for this season I would say.

    And let's not forget that summer transfer target Andy Yiadom is still at Barnsley and in January should have 6 months left on his contract...
    I think you are missing the point here. If money was the obstacle in getting wing backs, you don't go out and sign wingers and then not use them.

    As for Pavel playing 15 yards further back not being a reason effecting his game, how about him being concerned that there is no one covering behind him should the attack break down?

    The 'secret' to winning games is to play your players in their positions and in a system that they can thrive in.

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