Sorry Ian - Ollie Out

[1973 ranger]

Great Post Stanley and as you are the voice of reason on here I think that is an accurate reflection of what and where we are now.

[1973 ranger]

Pinkie. Celtic are 50 odd games unbeaten in domestic football and that is counted as are the 13 away games without a win for us. This season or last it is 13 games and facts are facts. Big worry as that kind of form will see us relegated.

[Pinkie]

Interesting story that as you don’t get that unless someone has a tip off. If you get Jackett you get joe Gallen which will please lots of the fans

I still think it’s a bit early pull trigger and I don’t actually think Ollie is under any pressure but I never realised the points return was as bad recently as someone said in other thread think they said 4 points from 18 that is truly horrific when you look at some of the teams we have played in that period.

Still plenty people trying defend Ollie but the facts are hard to defend as the only real improvement is we work harder that aside it’s same old same old. Makes some of the Ollie is great threads in August look little bit premature

Whats it got to do with defending ollie when its quite basicly the strikers upfront arent putting chances away & the midfield, yet are playing well? ollies got those hes got to work with! why make up things when the simple fact is we`re creating loads and not taking them, thats the players guilty of that not the manager im afraid, but it suits anyone whos always bashing ollie anyway plus in every single season every team hits blips, except we panic like little girls when we should all be sticking together, we`re playing ok and creating plenty so people should know a good result will be coming and stick in there, but no its panic stations after a draw away where we should of won lol

[Pinkie]

13 away games without a win in the league gives you a good reflection of our managers lack of tactical nous. If we persist with Holloway it should be on the condition he finds a clued up number 2 to help him in that department as his record with Bircham both here and at Millwall is disastrous at best.

13 away games this season lol, we`re not playing last seasons fixtures any more, its a new season

[Hitman34]

Yesterday was the first time this season that IH seriously pîssed me off with his team selection and tactics. That game was SO there for the taking and he royally fūcked it up by playing the wrong people in the wrong positions and leaving people out who should have been playing. But what the fark do I know? I don't have the benefit of watching and working with the players day in day out like our esteemed manager does, so apparently for this reason our mantra must remain as 'In Ollie we trust'? I've said all along that sacking him mid-season would be a mistake, as doing so creates even bigger problems than our current ones, so I'll just rant about it on this forum instead - even though I'm not sure doing so makes me feel any better.

agreed. most said he should have gone in the summer. but we were told to give him 12 games into the new season.

well, after preseason, hill of hell, chest beating and kissing of the badge, nothing has changed from last season's two runs of 7 defeats in a row.

currently 6 games without a win.

survived last season by 2pts.

not feeling so lucky for this season. i'm sure even he can manage a win against bolton but that will only paper over the cracks.

[Stanley]

Yesterday was the first time this season that IH seriously pîssed me off with his team selection and tactics. That game was SO there for the taking and he royally fūcked it up by playing the wrong people in the wrong positions and leaving people out who should have been playing. But what the fark do I know? I don't have the benefit of watching and working with the players day in day out like our esteemed manager does, so apparently for this reason our mantra must remain as 'In Ollie we trust'? I've said all along that sacking him mid-season would be a mistake, as doing so creates even bigger problems than our current ones, so I'll just rant about it on this forum instead - even though I'm not sure doing so makes me feel any better.

[Hitman34]

Agree with all of that, and agree that Ollie isn't good enough. We ain't got the best squad in this league by any stretch, but we have more than enough that we shouldn't be dragged into trouble. I fully understand why the knives are out for Ollie, my only concern is whether we will actually appoint someone better if we do sack him. Could end up going through a load of upheaval to remain just as bad as we were.

bang on. the board needs to look hard at the structure of the club. the positions of dof les and co is one of the contributing factors as to why we are only able to hire pe teachers, sky pundits and novices as our managers.

if the board are serious about getting a good quality championshp manager, they will need to gut this setup.

otherwise it will be another numpty.

[dogsrrs]

how many winless runs is it going to take you and pinkie to realise that hollowhead is utterturd.

two runs of losing 7 games on the spin.

so far this season 6 games without a win, played against some of the sh1test teams in the division.

come on man wake up ffs

Yawn what's the point? How many times do I need to say I am open on the subject of Holloway , who else ? He can't polish a turd ? , the fault lies above him imo , but let's take what appears to be your logic sack the managers , sack the dof , sack the director of finances (Hoos) yeah that's bound to put the club on a sound footing isn't it ?

[Tarbie]

wil just leave this here. i have nothing more to add.

3 wins in 12 this season
14 wins in 45 under Holloway
22 defeats in 45 under Holloway
5 clean sheets in 45
LR half empty

Agree with all of that, and agree that Ollie isn't good enough. We ain't got the best squad in this league by any stretch, but we have more than enough that we shouldn't be dragged into trouble. I fully understand why the knives are out for Ollie, my only concern is whether we will actually appoint someone better if we do sack him. Could end up going through a load of upheaval to remain just as bad as we were.

[dogsrrs]

Dogs. I only care about QPR not Burton's defence or Bristol City being free scoring. I agree no help was given by the board and that is a major problem for the season ahead. While their defence played well from what I recall we created #### all other than the usual blood and thunder approach operated most games.

Of course Buddie you've given the answer

[Hitman34]

wil just leave this here. i have nothing more to add.

3 wins in 12 this season
14 wins in 45 under Holloway
22 defeats in 45 under Holloway
5 clean sheets in 45
LR half empty

[Hitman34]

Why indeed !! If don't want to see Burton's defence played well on the day against a side with a blunt attack that was given no help from the board over the sumer transfer window , and a side that went to the 2nd placed top scorers and again played well enough to do the same , as I said why indeed !!

how many winless runs is it going to take you and pinkie to realise that hollowhead is utterturd.

two runs of losing 7 games on the spin.

so far this season 6 games without a win, played against some of the sh1test teams in the division.

come on man wake up ffs

[1973 ranger]

Dogs. I only care about QPR not Burton's defence or Bristol City being free scoring. I agree no help was given by the board and that is a major problem for the season ahead. While their defence played well from what I recall we created #### all other than the usual blood and thunder approach operated most games.

[dogsrrs]

Counter argument they have shipped four or more goals five times this season conceading four goals in the two immediate games which followed us

Come Westy you know some days you get it right against the odds as well as no two games are he same it's football mate , and ha ha no ho to make a point the Scum against Craptal palace yesterday

[dogsrrs]

Why should I be?

Why indeed !! If don't want to see Burton's defence played well on the day against a side with a blunt attack that was given no help from the board over the sumer transfer window , and a side that went to the 2nd placed top scorers and again played well enough to do the same , as I said why indeed !!