On my way home

[Shania]

He's made a statement to suggest even though we lost 4 1 we were very close.

Amazing isn`t it

[Shania]

Out of interest who would you have appointed.

David Challinor and Clint Hill if possible. Nathan Jones another. A bit like Warnock, but not very charming I know... anyway, he knows how to organise a team and motivate players.

[SheepRanger]

Another mediocre manager got a job on cheap at our club begs the question; what more can we expect from the players when he clearly can`t organise a team?

It could be worse, we could have Leicester's manager!

That messiah isn't pulling up any trees!!

[Shania]

It could be worse, we could have Leicester's manager!

That messiah isn't pulling up any trees!!

That`s true, but the club are a mess alledgedly.

[3London]

Really didn't understand the starting line up and this insistance of making changes every game.

I get the 3 game week etc but we haven't had a game for 7 days - play your best 11 in the first game of the week against a team that not won away since last april.

saito, smyth, RND all need to be starters.

The game itself was very frustrating - The LB was so exposed for the first goal , the 2nd goal - the foul by Hayden was a foul but Ipswich had been committing that foul numerous times in the first half - completely ignored by an incompetent ref.

We definitely were not as terrible as some on here would have it but the constant tinkering is damaging the team.

[Abseits]

He's made a statement to suggest even though we lost 4 1 we were very close.

We haven't been right since that debacle of a 2nd half at Swansea. The 3pts glossed over fact we were clinging on and getting outplayed by 10-men for most of the final 45mins.

I actually thought we were better today than at Derby but perversely recorded a worse result. BUT, there's a common thread emerging game-by-game now of us looking ponderous and unable to establish any sort of rhythm, pattern or foundation in our play. The list of "out of sorts" players is quite frightening... it's a big chunk of the team and they're starting to drag everyone down to their level.

[Stanfan]

Worst game for enjoyable technical football today. Felt set up wasn’t right with chair kone and Burrell. Thought jd did really well against a top winger. Free kicks were pathetic - especially second one where wall hopeless. Nardi still messing with it . Felt we were experimenting with team structure today.

[SheepRanger]

That`s true, but the club are a mess alledgedly.

That's most championship clubs. Most are skint and swinging from one disaster to another. We get £9m Eze money and have lost 3 of our ladt 4 games.

It's incredible that the most basic footballer is one that can run all day, win the ball and move it to more gifted plsyers. Its incredible that wingers these days are fast athletes, yet we have full backs who would struggle to beat decent 15 yr old school sprinters.

With Poku back, I'd rather train Smyth to be a full back. He won't lose his man for a lack of sprinting ability that's for sure. Get a new RB and a midfield terrier from L1.

[topperharley]

This guys is alright. I think yesterday he made some errors with his first 11, mainly at the back.

Then Ipswich were just a better side, and we did not have a cohesive answer to them. I thought first half just up to and after our goal we were a match if not better. But we never really found flow going forwards. Saito starting instead of Chair would've been smarter.

I think our 2 main issues were defensive errors and giving the ball away cheaply, just passing without the other player being there to accept. However, movement off the ball was quite good and even in a poor perfromance was better than i saw under Marti. We also pressed quite well. We deserved to lose but 1-4 flatters them a bit.

Nardi, he's not great with the ball at his feet is he. He likes a flap. I don't think he's all that bad and certainly better than Walsh, but i think we do need to look at that position in Jan.

[ragr]

David Challinor and Clint Hill if possible. Nathan Jones another. A bit like Warnock, but not very charming I know... anyway, he knows how to organise a team and motivate players.

Neither of those fit the club's prime directive - I suspect they'd put winning games at the top of their priorities. The majority of the squad has been bought with the full knowledge that we're trying to train them up and sell them on so they know they're just passing through, but if we can win some games on the way then all good. This makes sense in the book balancing world but leads to the insipid display of yesterday, while also doing no-one any favours in the sell on game. There were some positives to take from yesterday but the thing is that Ipswich barely got into third gear and weren't that impressive - but they didn't need to be. They should've had to work full on to beat a team 4-1 away but they didn't because it's clear that most of the players are merely at a station on the way to somewhere else and that's what they've been sold. I don't want to watch a team that merely digs in and grinds out results but neither do I want to watch a team that has little desire to be where it's at and do well there. ( I get the feeling that Rumarn and Koki may be exceptions.)

[SheepRanger]

Neither of those fit the club's prime directive - I suspect they'd put winning games at the top of their priorities. The majority of the squad has been bought with the full knowledge that we're trying to train them up and sell them on so they know they're just passing through, but if we can win some games on the way then all good. This makes sense in the book balancing world but leads to the insipid display of yesterday, while also doing no-one any favours in the sell on game. There were some positives to take from yesterday but the thing is that Ipswich barely got into third gear and weren't that impressive - but they didn't need to be. They should've had to work full on to beat a team 4-1 away but they didn't because it's clear that most of the players are merely at a station on the way to somewhere else and that's what they've been sold. I don't want to watch a team that merely digs in and grinds out results but neither do I want to watch a team that has little desire to be where it's at and do well there. ( I get the feeling that Rumarn and Koki may be exceptions.)

We've also got a manager who was rumoured to have done well at Lyon. I'm sure hes come to us to prove a point and move to a bigger club, hopefully in the premiership. That isn't going to happen with three defeats in the last four. Our manager will have a transfer fee associated to his contract so it's in the club's interests that he does well.

It's just frustrating to me that with an extra £9m this season in the transfer budget that we have so many attacking options, but have a physically weak midfield and limited options in the full back positions.

We really need to do some selling in Jan to rebalance this squad. For me, Kolli and Varane need to go to raise some cash.

[ragr]

As a manager, his win ratio at Rennes was between 41-44%, at Strasbourg it was 33%. How good you view that depends on how you view French football, I guess.

His main selling point to the club hierarchy, and then to the supporters, was his "strong reputation for developing players." Which is a great reputation and skill to possess, with a half dozen of very well known names given as examples. Does this promote an individual or a team outlook? We could sell one of those players in that team yesterday, at some point, maybe, for five times what we paid for them and that'll help to balance the books and redress our financial woes.

I get it. The owners need some return on their investment in keeping us barely floating for several years. The price, rather than the cost, is that we have a club that is essentially staffed by players that are here doing agency work with an eye on the next move. I realise that that is a picture repeated across the football spectrum for clubs in the second tier and we're not alone. There's a wider football malaise here.

This is probably me pining for the days when - seemingly - players played for their current clubs with genuine pride and commitment and if something else came along then they considered it as a reward for that delivery. It feels like a lot of players in the current times are aiming for the future without truly earning and working for it in the present and that entire systems of people are involved in that. It's great to have a dream but the present is the only thing that's guaranteed to anyone. The balance is, in my eyes, seriously out of whack.

[Shania]

That's most championship clubs. Most are skint and swinging from one disaster to another. We get £9m Eze money and have lost 3 of our ladt 4 games.

It's incredible that the most basic footballer is one that can run all day, win the ball and move it to more gifted plsyers. Its incredible that wingers these days are fast athletes, yet we have full backs who would struggle to beat decent 15 yr old school sprinters.

With Poku back, I'd rather train Smyth to be a full back. He won't lose his man for a lack of sprinting ability that's for sure. Get a new RB and a midfield terrier from L1.

Here is hoping. I feel a bit more positive today.

[Shania]

Neither of those fit the club's prime directive - I suspect they'd put winning games at the top of their priorities. The majority of the squad has been bought with the full knowledge that we're trying to train them up and sell them on so they know they're just passing through, but if we can win some games on the way then all good. This makes sense in the book balancing world but leads to the insipid display of yesterday, while also doing no-one any favours in the sell on game. There were some positives to take from yesterday but the thing is that Ipswich barely got into third gear and weren't that impressive - but they didn't need to be. They should've had to work full on to beat a team 4-1 away but they didn't because it's clear that most of the players are merely at a station on the way to somewhere else and that's what they've been sold. I don't want to watch a team that merely digs in and grinds out results but neither do I want to watch a team that has little desire to be where it's at and do well there. ( I get the feeling that Rumarn and Koki may be exceptions.)

That could be true, but they would put focus on building a solid foundation first. Stephan is lacking nouse for this I feel. Ps. So far I hasten to add.

[ragr]

That could be true, but they would put focus on building a solid foundation first. Stephan is lacking nouse for this I feel. Ps. So far I hasten to add.

Exactly that. For promise to grow you need a solid foundation to support it. Ours looks shaky right now.