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are they? or are they trying too hard to make homosexuality seem everyday and normal in our society? well its not. But then maybe its just my generation as it seems you have to whisper gay and racist jokes down the pub now or to your friends otherwise you are pounced upon by the PC brigade
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Because its looking down on someone just because of who they sleep with. Its the same as 20 years ago fans insulting players just because they were black. What business is it of yours or mine what two consenting adults get up to in private? Why do you care? Looked at from the selfish position of a hetrosexual man looking to spread his genes you should actually be pleased as it leaves more women available. In 20 years time there is sure to be a re-run of the John Terry incident, but this time involving one player calling another one a "gay c**t". And hopefully the fans of the victim's team will show him the same support we all showed Anton Ferdinand on saturday against those prejudiced - yes - m*rons.Comment
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And therein lies the problem. Will football ever react well enough if such a thing happened again?
I remember being told that allegedly a certain retired Arsenal defender wanted to come out of the closet - only for his chairman to tell him to get straight back in it and lock the door.
And that's England. Imagine the reaction in Spain or Italy...... Even though they're some of the biggest poofs ever to grace this planet.Comment
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Yes, because it is. Just because you may not like the fact that gay people exist, doesn't mean they don't.are they? or are they trying too hard to make homosexuality seem everyday and normal in our society? well its not. But then maybe its just my generation as it seems you have to whisper gay and racist jokes down the pub now or to your friends otherwise you are pounced upon by the PC brigade
Unless you're suggesting that the makers of these people are trying to turn people gay?
Bigots are perfectly entitled to their opinions, but everyone else is entitled to point out that they are bigots.Comment
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Is it racist too think there are too many non-English born scroungers coming over to the UK claiming benefit and whatever else they can scrounge? Eastern Europeans and mongrols from Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan/Somalia etc every where you turn scrounging benefits and NHS time and money? if it is then i must be a racist...and so must quite a high percentage of people i talk and hear complaining about it as well..... thing is its sad because its people in the media who seem to want to ram multi cultural England down your throat every five minutes and that being gay is normal and cool...there the real problem in this country. Look at the BBC...full of sausage jockeys out and proud.Comment
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Great stuff Stainrod but how is you're argument made any stronger by resorting to insults?Because its looking down on someone just because of who they sleep with. Its the same as 20 years ago fans insulting players just because they were black. What business is it of yours or mine what two consenting adults get up to in private? Why do you care? Looked at from the selfish position of a hetrosexual man looking to spread his genes you should actually be pleased as it leaves more women available. In 20 years time there is sure to be a re-run of the John Terry incident, but this time involving one player calling another one a "gay c**t". And hopefully the fans of the victim's team will show him the same support we all showed Anton Ferdinand on saturday against those prejudiced - yes - m*rons.
Resorting to insults says to me you're arguing it's wrong because this country says so.I haven't seen anyone on here say anything near as nasty as what you have said could happen in the future.Comment
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Well it's about prejudice in general isn't it? I don't see that homophobia is any more an acceptable 'point of view' than racism.
Hatred - no mine, personally.Comment
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well i guess ill be a bigot till i die then because i will never find homosexuality as normal...must be a racist bigot too as well because ill be the first one to lend a hand when the time comes to turf the scrounging foreigners over the Dover cliffs.Yes, because it is. Just because you may not like the fact that gay people exist, doesn't mean they don't.
Unless you're suggesting that the makers of these people are trying to turn people gay?
Bigots are perfectly entitled to their opinions, but everyone else is entitled to point out that they are bigots.Comment
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Is it elitist to ask whether the British economy is in such a hole because a large section of the native population is so fat, thick and lazy that we have to draw in so many immigrant workers? Is it elitist to point out that many of the most bigoted people failed at school, are unemployed or in very poorly paid jobs? And that these people then seek to hide their inadequecy by blaming "mongrols", "poofs" etc for the fact that they have rubbish lives?Is it racist too think there are too many non-English born scroungers coming over to the UK claiming benefit and whatever else they can scrounge? Eastern Europeans and mongrols from Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan/Somalia etc every where you turn scrounging benefits and NHS time and money? if it is then i must be a racist...and so must quite a high percentage of people i talk and hear complaining about it as well..... thing is its sad because its people in the media who seem to want to ram multi cultural England down your throat every five minutes and that being gay is normal and cool...there the real problem in this country. Look at the BBC...full of sausage jockeys out and proud.
As you might say, not my opinion, I'm only asking?Comment
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Hope you gave Terry a mighty cheer then.Comment
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