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  • QPROslo
    Silver Seat
    • Dec 2010
    • 1137

    #76
    Of course McClaren knew the situation. It is very easy to read the P&L of 2016//2017 and calculate what the loss would be in 2017/2018 (around £25m) and thereby project that we had to cut costs from last season to this of about £17m to meet FFP requirements and a further £20m or thereabout next season, when the last bit of the parachute money goes away. Even a financial fool will understand this means we need to massively reduce player salaries and cannot recruit other than cheap players. McClaren was told this, and if he wasn't he and his advisers could find out if the cared to spend half an hour on the public accounts everyone can freely read. The only thing that has changed financially since McClaren came onboard was a very positive outcome of the FFP penalty from the 2013/2014 season (the positive thing being the fine not counting towards new FFP calculations, thereby having no impact on our future spending).

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    • Hitman34
      Platinum Seat
      • Jan 2012
      • 13959

      #77
      Originally posted by QPROslo
      Of course McClaren knew the situation. It is very easy to read the P&L of 2016//2017 and calculate what the loss would be in 2017/2018 (around £25m) and thereby project that we had to cut costs from last season to this of about £17m to meet FFP requirements and a further £20m or thereabout next season, when the last bit of the parachute money goes away. Even a financial fool will understand this means we need to massively reduce player salaries and cannot recruit other than cheap players. McClaren was told this, and if he wasn't he and his advisers could find out if the cared to spend half an hour on the public accounts everyone can freely read. The only thing that has changed financially since McClaren came onboard was a very positive outcome of the FFP penalty from the 2013/2014 season (the positive thing being the fine not counting towards new FFP calculations, thereby having no impact on our future spending).
      Iee hoos has stated on many occasions that he always budgets for worst case scenarios, is this not how we find the club now?
      nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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      • Jonny
        Apprentice
        • Aug 2009
        • 163

        #78
        Originally posted by brightonr
        We lost one of the best keepers in the division to a PL bench.

        We lost one of the quickest centre backs in the league.

        We allowed another decent centre back to run his contract down and leave.

        We haven’t bothered with adequate replacements yet, in addition to ignoring the absolutely vital need for a quality striker.

        But let’s blame the new manager. Brilliant.

        He’s trying to implement a different style of play. One which will take a bit of time to get working effectively. One in which, once sorted, will produce a far more solid and consistent team.

        He could do with a bit of support from the fans, along with a group of players who actually do what they are being asked to do properly.

        I shall reserve judgement until we’ve played say 15 games and see how things are going then.
        Super post Brighton.

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        • Undecided
          Silver Seat
          • Sep 2017
          • 2077

          #79
          Originally posted by Hitman34

          Iee hoos has stated on many occasions that he always budgets for worst case scenarios, is this not how we find the club now?
          Plan for the worst hope for better.

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          • SheepRanger
            Administrator
            • Apr 2018
            • 8351

            #80
            I do blame SM for that result because no.professional team should lose by that amount. He'll be aware of that and it's not a sacking moment though.

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            • Ginger Ninja
              W12 Seat
              • Jan 2010
              • 17458

              #81
              What a muggy thread this is.
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              Pawel Wszolek - 6
              Luke Freeman - 6
              Matt Smith - 6
              Ebere Eze - 4
              Joel Lynch - 3
              Tomer Hemed - 3
              Toni Leistner - 2
              Massimo Luongo- 2
              Angel Rangel - 2
              Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
              Geoff Cameron - 1
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              • Undecided
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2017
                • 2077

                #82
                I'm not exactly sure what muggy means, but I'm sure I agree.

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                • Ginger Ninja
                  W12 Seat
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 17458

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Undecided
                  I'm not exactly sure what muggy means, but I'm sure I agree.
                  Pathetic/idiotic/stupid/foolish etc etc.
                  Yeah, horrible loss yesterday, no doubt about that. Head should roll for sure but the manager's, 3 games in? Nah.
                  Top Scorers 2018/2019

                  Nakhi Wells - 8
                  Pawel Wszolek - 6
                  Luke Freeman - 6
                  Matt Smith - 6
                  Ebere Eze - 4
                  Joel Lynch - 3
                  Tomer Hemed - 3
                  Toni Leistner - 2
                  Massimo Luongo- 2
                  Angel Rangel - 2
                  Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                  Geoff Cameron - 1
                  Aramide Oteh - 1
                  Jake Bidwell - 1
                  Jordan Cousins - 1

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                  • Undecided
                    Silver Seat
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 2077

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Ginger Ninja

                    Pathetic/idiotic/stupid/foolish etc etc.
                    Yeah, horrible loss yesterday, no doubt about that. Head should roll for sure but the manager's, 3 games in? Nah.
                    Yeah. I DO agree.

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                    • dogsrrs
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6671

                      #85
                      Originally posted by SheepRanger
                      I do blame SM for that result because no.professional team should lose by that amount. He'll be aware of that and it's not a sacking moment though.
                      Only going by what I've read so could be out of order but if your team makes six howlers leading to six goals in forty five minutes you have to take the blame

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                      • 72bus
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 9492

                        #86
                        i watched the back 4 knocking it about against sheff ud , absolutely no urgency about them when we were losing . yesterday all over the place , wrong side of the man , lazy , unable to read dangerous situations... and then they gave up , mclaren needs to do some hard work with them

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                        • dogsrrs
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 6671

                          #87
                          Originally posted by 72bus
                          i watched the back 4 knocking it about against sheff ud , absolutely no urgency about them when we were losing . yesterday all over the place , wrong side of the man , lazy , unable to read dangerous situations... and then they gave up , mclaren needs to do some hard work with them
                          Isn't that what many of our posters said he was good at when appointed

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                          • Gtleighsr3
                            CCG
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23569

                            #88
                            Let's be realistic. Steve may not be ideal.Ollie deft wasn't,but when u got no dosh,crap ground,crap training ground who descent are you going to attract?
                            Chelmsford City the home of Radio

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                            • mrbourne21
                              Apprentice
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 160

                              #89
                              Dave Mc has put some interesting tweets up ( sorry don’t know how to copy ) seems all is not well

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                              • maidstone_hoop
                                Gold Seat
                                • May 2009
                                • 6718

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Ginger Ninja

                                Pathetic/idiotic/stupid/foolish etc etc.
                                Yeah, horrible loss yesterday, no doubt about that. Head should roll for sure but the manager's, 3 games in? Nah.
                                This post is probably a bit a muggy and a little premature. Was born out of pure anger and dismay at not just the performance yesterday, but the sheer state of the club.

                                I also think McClaren is a very poor appointment and I personally think it will all go wrong whether it’s within the next 2 weeks or 3 months. If we lose the next 2/3 games or generate a minimal return in points then I really wouldn’t be surprised if he goes even this early.

                                Footballs ruthless nowadays and if it’s not working or a bad decision has been made then make the change.

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