Sorry Ian - Ollie Out

[FurtiveFox]

pretty much summed up my feelings exactly too. we're playing well given the injuries its just a lack of goals thats hitting us. ollies made some fantastic signings for us and got us playing some brilliant stuff but at the same time hes been stupid during the transfer window like ... buying every winger that was avaliable and not bringing in a new striker

Or wing backs bearing in mind we play with a system that allows for wing backs and not wingers ...

However would be churlish to blame Ollie solely for this given my previous post. Ollie has input into signings but is not in charge of them. Why sign a bunch of wingers when you don't play with wingers?

[corbray]

I am a big Ollie fan I think his signings have been shrewd and the passion and desire is for all to see. I do however thing he comes up short. It is starting to annoy me and I do think he is lacking in the tactics department. I am with pinks as Holloway is definitely the man for us but with the players we have in our squad we are underachieving. I am still not having this Washington is sh it behaviour. I am still waiting for Holloway to play a striker that will aid young Connor. If we had smith and Washington upfront I am convinced we would score more goals. The anti Holloway fans should appreciate the signings we've made. He has clearly worked miracles with no money so deserves the rest of the season for that reason alone. I am very grateful allbeit frustrated in the mean time.

pretty much summed up my feelings exactly too. we're playing well given the injuries its just a lack of goals thats hitting us. ollies made some fantastic signings for us and got us playing some brilliant stuff but at the same time hes been stupid during the transfer window like ... buying every winger that was avaliable and not bringing in a new striker

[FurtiveFox]

Weare, That is a very fair reflection on how things are with Holloway. No one can deny his passion for us and in that respect we are lucky. Tactically and team selections are where he just falls shorts, Maybe with a more clued up number 2 than Bircham it would work better.

He has been managing for donkeys years. If he doesn't get tactics now he shouldn't be managing.

Whilst I'm sure Ollie has had important input into the club's signings he himself has said Sir Les does this.

As I have said before would make a great assistant manager. I'm sure many on here are passionate about the club. Doesn't mean we should all be appointed joint managers!

[1973 ranger]

Weare, That is a very fair reflection on how things are with Holloway. No one can deny his passion for us and in that respect we are lucky. Tactically and team selections are where he just falls shorts, Maybe with a more clued up number 2 than Bircham it would work better.

[WeAreQPR12]

I am a big Ollie fan I think his signings have been shrewd and the passion and desire is for all to see. I do however thing he comes up short. It is starting to annoy me and I do think he is lacking in the tactics department. I am with pinks as Holloway is definitely the man for us but with the players we have in our squad we are underachieving. I am still not having this Washington is sh it behaviour. I am still waiting for Holloway to play a striker that will aid young Connor. If we had smith and Washington upfront I am convinced we would score more goals. The anti Holloway fans should appreciate the signings we've made. He has clearly worked miracles with no money so deserves the rest of the season for that reason alone. I am very grateful allbeit frustrated in the mean time.

[Shepherds Mush]

Don't see why we can't get Austin back for half a season loan.

I would imagine there are a number of reasons...

[Stanley]

Why else did he not get a job in the top two divisions for 18 months until we were mug enough to come along?

Because he had a cushy number with Sky and told his boss the only job I'll ever leave you for is the QPR one.....and whether you wish to believe that version of events is your choice :-)

[FurtiveFox]

But realistically he's got to back his strikers. Strikers more than anyone are confidence players and as a manager with good motivational skills as opposed to tactical (dont completely agree on this point but) this is all he can do. We have these guys until January at least so he may as well try and give them the confidence to score? Or should he tell them not to bother trying?

In my opinion Ollie could motivate them to their fullest and get the tactics spot on but none of our strikers would give a decent return of goals in a season. Even Sylla just think he's pure sh*te outside the box, sometimes in it as well!

Don't see why we can't get Austin back for half a season loan. Always Southampton's last sub to be brought on, 3 in the pecking order. Wishful thinking no doubt

I'd agree Ollie seems able to motivate but you lost me on tactics! He got sacked first time around due to weird team selections, tactics and subsequent loss of form. He doesn't seem to have learned much in the intervening years.

As I have said elsewhere think he would be a great assistant manager to run the line and gee up players but at this level you need someone with more tactical nouse to be the main man. Aside from a six month spell with Palace Ollie has been dire over last five years. All managers (bar Sir Alex!) seem to fade in the end and, rightly or wrongly, I believe Ollie has had his day at this level and should be managing in lower leagues. Why else did he not get a job in the top two divisions for 18 months until we were mug enough to come along?

[dogsrrs]

But realistically he's got to back his strikers. Strikers more than anyone are confidence players and as a manager with good motivational skills as opposed to tactical (dont completely agree on this point but) this is all he can do. We have these guys until January at least so he may as well try and give them the confidence to score? Or should he tell them not to bother trying?

In my opinion Ollie could motivate them to their fullest and get the tactics spot on but none of our strikers would give a decent return of goals in a season. Even Sylla just think he's pure sh*te outside the box, sometimes in it as well!

Don't see why we can't get Austin back for half a season loan. Always Southampton's last sub to be brought on, 3 in the pecking order. Wishful thinking no doubt

I wasn't going to reply to any more on this nonsense of a thread ! But on this post you're absolutely right CJ

[Stanley]

But realistically he's got to back his strikers.

Agree.

Strikers more than anyone are confidence players and as a manager with good motivational skills as opposed to tactical (dont completely agree on this point but) this is all he can do. We have these guys until January at least so he may as well try and give them the confidence to score?

Agree.

In my opinion Ollie could motivate them to their fullest and get the tactics spot on but none of our strikers would give a decent return of goals in a season.

Disagree,

For the reasons Mush stated above, and the fact that he never starts with any of those combos, and stubbornly insists on persisting with a Mackie/Washington combo when all and sundry can see it's not working. He needs to start picking his best striking partnerships from the start of games, not after 65 farking minutes FFS.

[Cjskinz]

For the simple reason that we've seen almost zero evidence of it since he arrived at the club.

But realistically he's got to back his strikers. Strikers more than anyone are confidence players and as a manager with good motivational skills as opposed to tactical (dont completely agree on this point but) this is all he can do. We have these guys until January at least so he may as well try and give them the confidence to score? Or should he tell them not to bother trying?

In my opinion Ollie could motivate them to their fullest and get the tactics spot on but none of our strikers would give a decent return of goals in a season. Even Sylla just think he's pure sh*te outside the box, sometimes in it as well!

Don't see why we can't get Austin back for half a season loan. Always Southampton's last sub to be brought on, 3 in the pecking order. Wishful thinking no doubt

[Stanley]

How do you know that Ollie doesn't?

For the simple reason that we've seen almost zero evidence of it since he arrived at the club.

[West Acton]

There hardly prolific he would not need to worry about them dowining tools

[Cjskinz]

Why he has form for coming out and slamming players

Haha i had thought about that but i don't think even Ollie is stupid enough to slam all his strikers at once! Where would the goals come fr...oh. Never mind.

[West Acton]

How do you know that Ollie doesn't?

He's not going to come out and say "Mackie your sh*t Conor your sh*t Matt your sh*t Sylla your sh*t I want someone else"

Why he has form for coming out and slamming players