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  • Kevin Mcleod
    Referee
    • Aug 2013
    • 17322

    #286
    Warnock to season end and JFH start afresh next would of been the perfect appointment.

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    • 1QPRDK
      Silver Seat
      • Feb 2013
      • 2151

      #287
      Also: how many moans and groans about playing without a striker and 400 left backs, did we get back then? The lineups NW presented would have caused havoc on here, if it was Chris or Jimmy calling the shots. Not fair IMO.
      https://twitter.com/1qprdk

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      • 1QPRDK
        Silver Seat
        • Feb 2013
        • 2151

        #288
        Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
        Warnock to season end and JFH start afresh next would of been the perfect appointment.
        Agreed, but seriously it was never an option.
        https://twitter.com/1qprdk

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        • Shepherds Mush
          Platinum Seat
          • Nov 2012
          • 10325

          #289
          Originally posted by Stanley
          For some reason you (and others) keep missing the point. I don't know how many times this needs spelling out before it sinks in:

          In the short time NW was in charge we kept clean sheets, it was clear we had a game plan, we were solid, organised and hard to beat. Most importantly he sorted the defence out and built from there. It may not have looked pretty but that wasn't the priority at the time. He instilled confidence and belief back in the side and managed to restore Hoilett's mojo after so many years in such a short space of time. Warnock's experience clearly made a huge difference.
          Warnock came in and shored up the back line, fair play but we never looked like we were going to score and created so few chances it was ridiculous.

          I'm no happy, clappy JFH fan at all (I wanted Pearson) but I would have him over Warnock to take us forward any day of the week.

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          • W12_Ranger
            Platinum Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 11447

            #290
            Originally posted by loneranger
            I'm glad I don't like football anymore.
            Thought i was the only one, no idea about the quality of performances as I haven't seen any under JFH unless he was in charge for the Brighton match?

            Anyway reading this forum for the first time briefly in months its the same old comments I've read under a dozen managers at Rangers so I'm going to just look at this statiscally as I don't waste my time at present watching us.

            - results under Warnock were better than both CR & JFH, why is that?
            - inability to shut up shop / conceding equalisers or losing goals in the final 10 mins

            when the season is over the statistical odds that Warnocks time in charge this season would have kept us up are a given

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            • hal9thou
              Silver Seat
              • May 2012
              • 4258

              #291
              Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
              Warnock to season end
              was always the obvious option, and I suspect a do-able one since for reasons given previously I think he would have obliged.

              I'm sticking to my guns. I think there was little evidence that JFH was the right man for the job in hand.

              Originally posted by Ramsey is god
              [b][u]warnock did not want the job on a permanent basis.
              1) Taking us to the end of the season would not have been a permanent appointment.

              2) As has been said many many time, if NW knew he was surplus than of course he's going to go public saying he didn't want it. No one knows what really happened.

              3) No self respecting guv'nor is going to put up with our set up (Les, the board), and I suspect NW felt he was perfectly capable of doing just fine without a DoF. So if he really couldn't bear to stay, the set up could have been the reason.

              Either way the club chose to take another massive gamble, as was pointed out by many people at the time.

              Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
              We aren't showing any fight, you're right, we didn't under Ramsey or Warnock either
              They were a cohesive unit for NW. Only opinion, but I think he had the dressing room, was respected. I don't think that's true of JFH. Sure we can wait for him to sort out his squad in the summer, but remember he was brought in as the club suddenly decided that we were promotion material - hence CR getting his p45. That tune has had to be changed pdq. Bottom line is we're drifting down, never mind sharing in the media rights spree for next year's EPL. Those who support JFH did to ask how far down that road they are prepared to go.
              Last edited by hal9thou; 13-01-2016, 02:27 AM.

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              • Fordy
                Silver Seat
                • May 2011
                • 4281

                #292
                Just watched the highlights. That Blackburn goal was horrendous defending, professional footballers letting the ball bounce?!? Thats total incompetance from the players in my book, JFH can't coach them not to let a ball bounce in the area. I learnt that at about 8 years old. Our players are shite houses end of.

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                • WE ARE QPR!
                  Apprentice
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 223

                  #293
                  Obviously with the comedy trio of Jimmy , Les & Chris at the helm we will soon be in division one!

                  GET RID OF ALL THREE NOW AND GET WARNOCK!

                  SAVE QPR!

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                  • Kevin Mcleod
                    Referee
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 17322

                    #294
                    #PrayForQPRBeforeItsToLate

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                    • Ramsey is god

                      #295
                      Been over this Warnock situation time and time again.

                      He didn't want the job permanently - he said so - why people argue this, i dont know.
                      Extremely short sighted if knowing the above we gave him the job anyway. Would be in the same situation at the end of the season again.

                      Its so, so simple, but becuase you love the man (yes he done fantastic for us in the past), you cant move on from it.

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                      • maidstone_hoop
                        Gold Seat
                        • May 2009
                        • 6718

                        #296
                        Originally posted by Ramsey is god
                        Been over this Warnock situation time and time again.

                        He didn't want the job permanently - he said so - why people argue this, i dont know.
                        Extremely short sighted if knowing the above we gave him the job anyway. Would be in the same situation at the end of the season again.

                        Its so, so simple, but becuase you love the man (yes he done fantastic for us in the past), you cant move on from it.
                        He wanted the Job 100% and you can't get your head around how he handled it in the media that's all. Behind the scenes it was a different story.

                        However even though i'm pro Warnock, JFH still needs more time. To soon to talk about the sack right now. I'd like to see how he does over the next 10 games. Hopefully he can get this elusive win and we get 3 or 4 decent results.
                        If it continues like this and we keep dropping down the league and find ourselves within 3 or 4 points of teams in the bottom 3 then I hope the club would look to act as by then they would of given 20 games to prove hos worth and the club should't be in that mess.

                        Dont forget the reason Les made the change was he thought Ramset was under achieving in mid table and that with the players we have at our disposal expectations had changed and a play off push was expected. So to be tangled in any sort of relegation flirtation or bottom 8 team is way of course for what JFH was brought in for.

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                        • qprted
                          CCG
                          • May 2010
                          • 9639

                          #297
                          well

                          absolute rubbish ramsey is god,this whole thing goes back to gerry francis,when gerry was our manager we went to fifth in the prem but everytime that ray wilkins was interviewed he seemed to have all the answers
                          and slowly all the fans including me fell in love with wilkins
                          so although we were heartbroken to lose gerry francis,the thought that ray would take over made us very quickly forget gerry
                          at first it looked like ray could do the job as he very slightly chaged gerrys team but then he seels ferdinand and buys 6 players with the money
                          and now as ray wilkins tried to assemble his new look rangers we start losing game after game, i think tony fernades made the same mistake
                          TALKING TO LES HE FELL IN LOVE WITH HIM AND HE BROUGHT HIM IN AT DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
                          but his first ckash of managers was his refusal to give harry redknapp the cash for jermane defoe,then he refused to give us enough money to tempt the big blasck african from tottenham so for the first time in harry redknaps life he was not allowed to buy himself out of trouble
                          AND WE GOT RELEGATED SO RAMSEY FOR ENGLAND I KNOW YOU LOVE YOUR RANGERS BUT NEIL WARNOCK SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN A SITUATION THAT HE WAS GIVEN THE OBVIOUS OFFER OF ONLY WORKING HERE THREE DAYS A WEEK BUT GIVEN A THREE YEAR CONTRACT TO THAT EFFECT
                          then right now we would still be two points off the play offs and yes we would possibley make the play offs
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                          • Rich
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3412

                            #298
                            We will stay up for two reasons: 1) Warnock got us 7 points, or we would be 3 off the drop now..... 2) the clubs in the bottom 3/4 are even worse than us

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                            • maidstone_hoop
                              Gold Seat
                              • May 2009
                              • 6718

                              #299
                              Originally posted by Rich
                              We will stay up for two reasons: 1) Warnock got us 7 points, or we would be 3 off the drop now..... 2) the clubs in the bottom 3/4 are even worse than us
                              That's what I think fella.

                              However are we saying a manager who was brought in because mid table wasn't good enough and we finish bottom 8 with our squad is the right guy to move us forward. I think not.

                              Jimmy shot to prove he's up to managing a club like ours at this level. We are different animal compared to burton as its to manage a club like utd to us.

                              It's about levels and at the moment he looks well pit of place. Even if we win at Rotherham that won't change my mind. He needs to show some consistency and show he can manage a team full of players on big money.

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                              • Shepherds Mush
                                Platinum Seat
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 10325

                                #300
                                Originally posted by maidstone_hoop
                                He needs to show some consistency and show he can manage a team full of players on big money.
                                And those players on big money need to play like players on big money!

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