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  • CroydonCaptainJack
    Gold Seat
    • Jan 2011
    • 6141

    #31
    Originally posted by Rangers77
    This. I'm sure he's tearing his hair out. But he's placed his bet.
    Spot on mate.

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    • James1979
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4857

      #32
      Good spirit, good players. He's beginning to sound like Harry!

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      • Kit
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 3747

        #33
        I really don't get the negativity to TF. He has been let down by top level managers who he has backed and is probably just cutting his losses at the moment and why wouldn't you ! Much prefer TF to some of the other chairman around and his only real issue is not being ruthless enough but that's essy to say when it's not your money !

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        • James1979
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 4857

          #34
          Originally posted by Kit
          I really don't get the negativity to TF. He has been let down by top level managers who he has backed and is probably just cutting his losses at the moment and why wouldn't you ! Much prefer TF to some of the other chairman around and his only real issue is not being ruthless enough but that's essy to say when it's not your money !
          I really like Tony too. He's pretty blameless and backed all of his managers except warnock to the hilt

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          • Martinmalta
            Silver Seat
            • Apr 2012
            • 2507

            #35
            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
            I know it looks really bad and a lot of people are gutted that tony has stuck with hr, but i mean this with all honesty mate, we are not down yet, and still have a massive massive chance of staying up. Its so close down there and the worst prem in history. Stop telling yourself its done already please, cos it aint, few more wins and we stay up, and get rid of hr and the future willl look amazing starting next season. Peas.
            Its nice to dream. I agree with you that we still have a good chance of staying up. Few more wins you said. Where and when they are coming?

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            • nasser95
              Gold Seat
              • Dec 2012
              • 7216

              #36
              Originally posted by surrey_hoop
              Both of those things (either directly or inderectly) have become much more prevelant under TF's ownership. After 3 years in charge, I hardly see how he will recitfy either.
              How has it become more prevalent that we have an ageing squad. only players over 30 are Green, Murphy, rio, Clint, Dunney, Joey, SWP, Henry and Bobby. Hardly a huge mass, especially when we have 12 under 26's in the squad as well. This compared to our promotion winning squad with Kenny, Cerny, Clint, Hall, Chimbonda, Shittu, Derry, Rowlands, Helguson, Agyemang, Hulse and Tommy Smith. We have lost all but 1 of those players and have replaced them with better quality alternatives in general.
              The club was in debt prior to tony albeit the debt has risen. He will rectify those eventually but they are primarily down to the football people (Kia, Hughes in particular) convincing the owners to make mistakes.
              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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              • nasser95
                Gold Seat
                • Dec 2012
                • 7216

                #37
                Originally posted by James1979
                I really like Tony too. He's pretty blameless and backed all of his managers except warnock to the hilt
                He actually even did back warnock, but you remember Anton, SWP and Joey at the time? There was no reason to back him when he brought in all those guys alone.
                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                • MaineHoopsFan
                  Bronze Seat
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 291

                  #38
                  Looks like I found out what TF was doing "behind the scene's...."

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                  • dsqpr
                    Silver Seat
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3433

                    #39
                    Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                    @tonyfernandes "Will be doing a video on academy, Warren farm, new stadium and season so far. Good spirit good players."

                    I'm starting to have enough now. In the bottom 3, debt up to our eyeballs, and the bloke trots out the new training ground / stadium (which are no nearer to being realised) garbage every time he takes some criticism. We don't need videos on Warren Farm, we need a team that can win away from Loftus Road.
                    I'm greedy, I want both! And I see no reason why my wish should not be granted. Well, other than Harry Redknapp that is!
                    'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

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                    • Tarbie
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8542

                      #40
                      Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                      @tonyfernandes "Will be doing a video on academy, Warren farm, new stadium and season so far. Good spirit good players."

                      I'm starting to have enough now. In the bottom 3, debt up to our eyeballs, and the bloke trots out the new training ground / stadium (which are no nearer to being realised) garbage every time he takes some criticism. We don't need videos on Warren Farm, we need a team that can win away from Loftus Road.
                      I agree, blind enthusiasm drives me crazy. By the time Tony admits we're in the sh*t it will too late. If we go down with the new FFP laws I don't see us coming back either!

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                      • surrey_hoop
                        Silver Seat
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1834

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Kit
                        I really don't get the negativity to TF. He has been let down by top level managers who he has backed and is probably just cutting his losses at the moment and why wouldn't you ! Much prefer TF to some of the other chairman around and his only real issue is not being ruthless enough but that's essy to say when it's not your money !
                        Yes, he has. Yet he's backed all of them for far too long. My issue with Fernandes is that he is trying to run us like a business - build an extravagant infrasturcture, speculate to accumulate, and (relative) success will follow. Unfortunately, football doesn't work like that. A new stadium is a luxury that we don't need (and I daresay can't afford) at this time. TF needs a little perspective here.
                        Last edited by surrey_hoop; 20-01-2015, 08:09 PM.

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                        • surrey_hoop
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1834

                          #42
                          Originally posted by nasser95
                          How has it become more prevalent that we have an ageing squad. only players over 30 are Green, Murphy, rio, Clint, Dunney, Joey, SWP, Henry and Bobby
                          We have the oldest squad in the PL.

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                          • QPR Richard
                            Gold Seat
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 6489

                            #43
                            Can't believe all the negativity over OFF-field activities. The board is trying to improve the infrastructure of the club which is sorely needed. The stadium and academy are part of our future and we will reap the rewards long term.

                            You can't equate short-term on-field problems with long-term infrastructure development. TF has already said we will strengthen the team where we can. It's now down to the players and coaching staff to do their bit. Tony can't put on a track suit and coach the players or stick on a pair of boots on Saturdays can he?

                            As I've said elsewhere, if we'd done better in just a few more games we'd be higher up the table and this wouldn't be a discussion. Whenever we have a bad patch the doom and gloom merchants have a field day on here.
                            Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                            • dogsrrs
                              Gold Seat
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 6671

                              #44
                              R
                              Originally posted by QPR Richard
                              Can't believe all the negativity over OFF-field activities. The board is trying to improve the infrastructure of the club which is sorely needed. The stadium and academy are part of our future and we will reap the rewards long term.

                              You can't equate short-term on-field problems with long-term infrastructure development. TF has already said we will strengthen the team where we can. It's now down to the players and coaching staff to do their bit. Tony can't put on a track suit and coach the players or stick on a pair of boots on Saturdays can he?

                              Good post
                              But you the worse about message boards is always get smome pr@t that uses thm to seek self attention to gain their 15 m7nutes of fame


                              As I've said elsewhere, if we'd done better in just a few more games we'd be higher up the table and this wouldn't be a discussion. Whenever we have a bad patch the doom and gloom merchants have a field day on here.

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                              • nasser95
                                Gold Seat
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7216

                                #45
                                Originally posted by QPR Richard
                                Can't believe all the negativity over OFF-field activities. The board is trying to improve the infrastructure of the club which is sorely needed. The stadium and academy are part of our future and we will reap the rewards long term.

                                You can't equate short-term on-field problems with long-term infrastructure development. TF has already said we will strengthen the team where we can. It's now down to the players and coaching staff to do their bit. Tony can't put on a track suit and coach the players or stick on a pair of boots on Saturdays can he?

                                As I've said elsewhere, if we'd done better in just a few more games we'd be higher up the table and this wouldn't be a discussion. Whenever we have a bad patch the doom and gloom merchants have a field day on here.
                                It is a joke from some here isn't it? They complain about the lack of a future structure for youth and profit, and then complain when those structures are announced and enhanced. I for one am grateful for the opportunity to see the potential improvement in the infrastructure of the club.
                                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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