Will Adel get a chance?

[DeepcutHoop]

These Adel threads are getting ridiculous and some of you keep bringing up the same old cobblers. Give it a rest!

I remember some of you screamed for Adel to be given the no.10 shirt and came in your trousers when he wore it. Hardly the mark of grown men.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I've seen the best "number ten" this club has ever had, Mr Bowles, and Adel is not fit to shine his boots. If that makes you tearful, tough. The bloke has disrespected QPR for long enough and should be sold. I don't care how good some of you think he is, but his behaviour towards our club is a disgrace.

And hopefully when he's sold, we'll see the end of the same old threads about him.

I'm happy to admit that Adel isn't as good as Stan Bowles.

He's been the most exciting player I've seen at QPR over the last few years though , and as such I would love to see him play for us again. I don't think he will though, due to his attitude and ego.

[stainrodisalegend]

So you condemn him because he is not as good as Stan Bowles. Where does that leave the rest of our squad? Or is it only Adel who has to face such ridiculously hard comparisons? Joey Barton is no Ray Wilkins or Tony Currie, does that mean we moan about him and sell him?

[Nick]

Why don't his past positives still apply? It certainly didn't look like he'd forgotten how to play football while at AC Milan a few months back.

And your issues clearly do have something to do with his performances in the PL. You put scare quotes around the word to imply he didn't perform well; you claim he only ever had one good season for us. If you thought - as Deepcut, Stainrod and others do - that he actually played pretty well in the PL and contributed a lot in a very poor side, then your views on his attitude would change.

It's a lot easier to tolerate a bad attitude if the player is contributing on the pitch.

What!!!.... you want us to 'tolerate' Sir Adel's attitude so he can put in a half ar$ed shift on the pitch and sulk half way through a game when plays not going his way. All this just so some can see him do the odd bit of trickery. Really???

He had an ok season with us in the premiership and a good spell in Milan..... He also had such a bad loan spell with Fulham in the premiership that they loaned him out!!!...

But its not so much what he does on the pitch that worries me, it's what influences he'll have in the dressing room..... like I've said before this was his chance to prove a point, show the doubters he can step up (grow up) and concrete a place in a premiership team. But he turns up to pre season completely physically out of shape. And that tells me he doesn't care, and he's happy just to plod along while we pay him.

IMO we need to sell him ASAP and end this pantomime!!...

[Geng]

Let's sell Charlie Austin, he isn't fit to lace Les Ferdinand's boots.

Funny how whenever someone makes a good, thoughtful post on this subject a bunch of people come along and prove our point over the next few posts. Why on earth use the fact Adel isn't at Barca as a stick to beat him with? Why not celebrate the fact we have a player talented enough for that to even be mentioned as a possibility? And so what if he isn't as good as Stan Bowles. He's a lot better than Hoilett, Phillips, SWP, Krancjar, Benayoun and others who have tried to replace him - that's what matters, not weird comparisions that only come up in the first place because of his sheer ability.

[QPR Richard]

So you condemn him because he is not as good as Stan Bowles. Where does that leave the rest of our squad? Or is it only Adel who has to face such ridiculously hard comparisons? Joey Barton is no Ray Wilkins or Tony Currie, does that mean we moan about him and sell him?

I think Adel is a reasonable player, but not as good as he's made out. This hero-worship is a joke, to say nothing of his attitude and behaviour.

What is laughable is fans making out he's some kind of genius, which, IMO, he's not.

It's time for us all to move on. We've not seen him play for us for how long?

[Geng]

What!!!.... you want us to 'tolerate' Sir Adel's attitude so he can put in a half ar$ed shift on the pitch and sulk half way through a game when plays not going his way. All this just so some can see him do the odd bit of trickery. Really???

He had an ok season with us in the premiership and a good spell in Milan..... He also had such a bad loan spell with Fulham in the premiership that they loaned him out!!!...

But its not so much what he does on the pitch that worries me, it's what influences he'll have in the dressing room..... like I've said before this was his chance to prove a point, show the doubters he can step up (grow up) and concrete a place in a premiership team. But he turns up to pre season completely physically out of shape. And that tells me he doesn't care, and he's happy just to plod along while we pay him.

IMO we need to sell him ASAP and end this pantomime!!...

I don't disagree with you re attitude. Maybe he would be dressing room poison, who knows. He seems to get on with lots of our players judging by instagram etc but who knows what really goes on there.

You're back to denying reality with that bit I've bolded though. It's as though the stepovers blind you to the actual end product Adel delivers, which is far, far more than any of our other attacking mids.

[Ginger Ninja]

Let's sell Charlie Austin, he isn't fit to lace Les Ferdinand's boots.

Funny how whenever someone makes a good, thoughtful post on this subject a bunch of people come along and prove our point over the next few posts. Why on earth use the fact Adel isn't at Barca as a stick to beat him with? Why not celebrate the fact we have a player talented enough for that to even be mentioned as a possibility? And so what if he isn't as good as Stan Bowles. He's a lot better than Hoilett, Phillips, SWP, Krancjar, Benayoun and others who have tried to replace him - that's what matters, not weird comparisions that only come up in the first place because of his sheer ability.

When was the last time he showed his talent? Fulham at home a couple of seasons ago?
He's been nowhere near the squad since, why? Because he simply doesn't want to be here. Full stop. Yes, he's better than the players you mentioned, but they all want/wanted to play for QPR (except SWP maybe). If he wanted to play for us, he would be. Simple.

[Geng]

And yeah, I do want to watch trickery.

One of the most depressing thing about these Adel debates is it reveals our fanbase to be no different from any other. I grew up thinking of QPR as a bit special, a team who played attractive football, a home for talented mavericks and entertainers. Turns out your average WATRB poster shares the standard English mentality: valuing attitude and application over ability and entertainment; suspicious of foreign flair players; desperate to see a team of grafters who play for the badge; no idea where to fit a talented playmaker into a side ("wingers need to get down the line and send crosses into the box")

[FurtiveFox]

Let's sell Charlie Austin, he isn't fit to lace Les Ferdinand's boots.

Funny how whenever someone makes a good, thoughtful post on this subject a bunch of people come along and prove our point over the next few posts. Why on earth use the fact Adel isn't at Barca as a stick to beat him with? Why not celebrate the fact we have a player talented enough for that to even be mentioned as a possibility? And so what if he isn't as good as Stan Bowles. He's a lot better than Hoilett, Phillips, SWP, Krancjar, Benayoun and others who have tried to replace him - that's what matters, not weird comparisions that only come up in the first place because of his sheer ability.

I think it was Adel who linked himself with Barcelona or some similar team! I too would like to aspire to play for Barcelona. Does that make me a Messi or Ronaldo? I may go for a kick around in the car park, try and nutmeg a seagull and then shoot wildly wide and have to knock on next door to get my ball back.

He is obviously someone who divides opinion. For me he hasn't proven himself at the top level in three years and doesn't want to be here. Even his agent admits nobody in England wants him. Regardless of what the pro and anti Adels think that says it all. He isn't wanted at QPR, we would sell him for a bag of nuts and still nobody wants him.

He has had some positives but is one of the worst taker of set pieces I have seen, his shooting is dire and he lacks pace. Why unbalance the side to accommodate him? We all enjoy the odd bit of magic but when so seldom seen the team needs to come first.

[QPR Richard]

Let's sell Charlie Austin, he isn't fit to lace Les Ferdinand's boots.

Funny how whenever someone makes a good, thoughtful post on this subject a bunch of people come along and prove our point over the next few posts. Why on earth use the fact Adel isn't at Barca as a stick to beat him with? Why not celebrate the fact we have a player talented enough for that to even be mentioned as a possibility? And so what if he isn't as good as Stan Bowles. He's a lot better than Hoilett, Phillips, SWP, Krancjar, Benayoun and others who have tried to replace him - that's what matters, not weird comparisions that only come up in the first place because of his sheer ability.

You've taken things completely out of context. Please read my post properly.

You conveniently seem to forget his poor attitude and behaviour. In some cases that can be accommodated, in his case, no, because he's not that great IMO.

[Nick]

I don't disagree with you re attitude. Maybe he would be dressing room poison, who knows. He seems to get on with lots of our players judging by instagram etc but who knows what really goes on there.

You're back to denying reality with that bit I've bolded though. It's as though the stepovers blind you to the actual end product Adel delivers, which is far, far more than any of our other attacking mids.

I'd like to see Hoilet play in that position against a premiership side. He might not be as good at it as Adel was 3 years ago but I guarantee he'll give his all for 90mins if asked to do so....

[Geng]

When was the last time he showed his talent? Fulham at home a couple of seasons ago?
He's been nowhere near the squad since, why? Because he simply doesn't want to be here. Full stop. Yes, he's better than the players you mentioned, but they all want/wanted to play for QPR (except SWP maybe). If he wanted to play for us, he would be. Simple.

AC Milan a few months ago. The fact you mention the Fulham match (december 2012) is a great example of selective memory. Five months later he completely turned the game against Villa away, sending through about four brilliant through balls within ten minutes of coming on. But no, he only had two good games in the PL, sure.

I've no doubt a player of his talent doesn't want to play for the ungrateful mob at loftus road. I wouldn't either. Maybe his high wages will keep him here, who knows.

I don't expect Adel to start on saturday - as ever, I'm just trying to stop history being rewritten.

[Geng]

I'd like to see Hoilet play in that position against a premiership side. He might not be as good at it as Adel was 3 years ago but I guarantee he'll give his all for 90mins if asked to do so....

Hoilett had less end product last season, while playing for a top side in the championship, than Adel did while playing for a terrible side in the premier league.

Sure, Hoilett's form might turn around but I've watched a lot of the pre-season games and haven't really seen any signs thus far.

[West London is Rss]

Threads on Adel always start lengthy convo's between Rangers fans because a lot of fans see him as a Legend from the promotion winning season.

Personally I don't think a legend is someone who does it for one season so I don't know where some fans get the fascination with Adel from.

I think the best thing for us and him is for him to leave.. No matter what price, I think we should sell to the 1st buyer. We have moved on and so has Adel.

[Rangersw12]

When you're paying stupid prices to watch football then you want you want to see a bit of skill and class and Taarabt has that in abundance

Yes his attitude can be poor but when he is actually allowed to play he has always given 100% on the pitch and it's up to Redknapp to manage him properly ( even Hughes managed that ) ever since Redknapp took over it was clear he was waiting for the first chance to bomb him out

He is the best number 10 in a generation but hey don't worry we can look forward to super Joey running around giving the ball away on Sat whilst the divs sing "one Joey Barton"