Old oak common...

[vblockranger]

I just wondered if you remembered any of those things and how close we came to going to the wall, because small revenue streams and lower league football could bring it all back again.

The same as it could for the other 71 (?) clubs in the football league you mean?

[QPR Richard]

Richard any update on warren farm? I hear there was yet another protest and has all gone quiet? Has work started?

I've no idea. It's an issue between the council and residents.

[QPR Richard]

The same as it could for the other 71 (?) clubs in the football league you mean?

I'm not talking about the other 71, I'm talking about things that ACTUALLY happened to us. You're clouding the issue now.

[vblockranger]

I'm not talking about the other 71, I'm talking about things that ACTUALLY happened to us. You're clouding the issue now.

Actually the point i am trying to make is we will be in the same boat as the other 71 clubs and this time with better management and no need for an emergency £10 million loan we might avoid a repeat of those past mistakes. If/when TF and co get bored and walk away i would hope they would leave us financially secure and as a sustainable financial model. I just want that to be without this ridiculous 40k stadium and all it represents. TF wants it so it looks as though it is going to happen (if you believe the tweets :-) ) but like i said at the beggining of this thread i hope it falls through or takes many years. Thats it. Simple.

[QPRDave]

People do know that QPR is not anyone person's private possession right?....."I want a small stadium filled with QPR fans only?" Sorry but if that's what you want then maybe it's non league football you need to watch.
This is QPR a professional football club, a business pure and simple.The current investment has made this club exciting again, and you just have to read other forums to see they'd bite off their right arms for the ambition shown by our owners.
One question also about this identity thing with Loftus Road...What is our true identity? Kensal Rise?, White City?

Rangers have had a somewhat nomadic existence, having played in 16 different locations throughout northwest London since their formation. The several grounds before 1886 are unknown but were probably in the Queens Park area (the first being The Queens Park itself). QPR hold the title of having had the most home grounds in football league history:[21]
Welford's Fields (1886–1888)
London Scottish F.C.'s Ground (1888–1889)
Brondesbury (1888–1889)
Home Farm (1888–1889)
Kensal Green (1888–1889)
Gun Club (1888–1889)
Wormwood Scrubs (1888–1889)
Kilburn Cricket Ground (1888–1889)
Kensal Rise Athletic Ground (1899–1901)
Latimer Road/St Quintin Avenue (1901–1902)
Kensal Rise Athletic Ground (1902–1904)
Royal Agricultural Society showgrounds (1904–1907)
Park Royal Ground (1907–1917)
Loftus Road (1917–1931)
White City Stadium (1931–1933)
Loftus Road (1933–1962)
White City Stadium (1962–1963)
Loftus Road (1963–present)

[vespa]

If people hate the fact we are a small club, hate loftus rd , only are interested in premier league football , want to watch Rooney every week ,why did they choose to follow the Rangers ?
And all this b ollocks about its either a 40 k new stadium or oblivion ,is just that , b ollocks.

[vespa]

People do know that QPR is not anyone person's private possession right?....."I want a small stadium filled with QPR fans only?" Sorry but if that's what you want then maybe it's non league football you need to watch.
This is QPR a professional football club, a business pure and simple.The current investment has made this club exciting again, and you just have to read other forums to see they'd bite off their right arms for the ambition shown by our owners.
One question also about this identity thing with Loftus Road...What is our true identity? Kensal Rise?, White City?

Rangers have had a somewhat nomadic existence, having played in 16 different locations throughout northwest London since their formation. The several grounds before 1886 are unknown but were probably in the Queens Park area (the first being The Queens Park itself). QPR hold the title of having had the most home grounds in football league history:[21]
Welford's Fields (1886–1888)
London Scottish F.C.'s Ground (1888–1889)
Brondesbury (1888–1889)
Home Farm (1888–1889)
Kensal Green (1888–1889)
Gun Club (1888–1889)
Wormwood Scrubs (1888–1889)
Kilburn Cricket Ground (1888–1889)
Kensal Rise Athletic Ground (1899–1901)
Latimer Road/St Quintin Avenue (1901–1902)
Kensal Rise Athletic Ground (1902–1904)
Royal Agricultural Society showgrounds (1904–1907)
Park Royal Ground (1907–1917)
Loftus Road (1917–1931)
White City Stadium (1931–1933)
Loftus Road (1933–1962)
White City Stadium (1962–1963)
Loftus Road (1963–present)

Dave,that's all well and good but we've been at Loftus Rd since 1917 bar 3 seasons, so I think we can quite safely say its home.

[Kevin Mcleod]

If people hate the fact we are a small club, hate loftus rd , only are interested in premier league football , want to watch Rooney every week ,why did they choose to follow the Rangers ?
And all this b ollocks about its either a 40 k new stadium or oblivion ,is just that , b ollocks.

I haven't seen anyone saying they hate Loftus road or hate we are a small club anywhere????
I just want the best for this club, and going down the divisions might be best for you and one or two others, but it really isn't the best for rangers or the majority of fans you know.

[vespa]

And you haven't heard me say ,I want us to go down the divisions 'have you ?????

[Kevin Mcleod]

Don't know if it was you or the other bloke who said they would prefer us in league one. But you said you were twins or something like that, so no matter.

[vespa]

Don't know if it was you or the other bloke who said they would prefer us in league one. But you said you were twins, so no matter.

Read back mate ,I didn't say anything about twins

[vblockranger]

Read back mate ,I didn't say anything about twins

Its alright Vesps the blokes trying to crack a funny but failed .... no wonder Rooney is his hero :-)

[vblockranger]

I haven't seen anyone saying they hate Loftus road or hate we are a small club anywhere????
I just want the best for this club, and going down the divisions might be best for you and one or two others, but it really isn't the best for rangers or the majority of fans you know.

Theres a difference between supporting rangers in ANY division with a sustainable wage structure and "going down the divisions"...do catch up :-) . Did you know the FIFA14 demo is out? Might get to see a fair representation of one of your heroes from the prem in all its pixellated goodness :-) you could be on it now licking up the glamour and the glitz of the prem in preparation for rangers magnificent return to compete for 7th place next season or in about 10 seasons in our half empty 40k venue sat next to tourist from Australia who was given a free ticket on her flight over. :-).

[Kevin Mcleod]

Read back mate ,I didn't say anything about twins

Apols mate, looked back and it was nz. You're avatars look similar.
Roll on Rooney and rvp, and ozil and Wilshire at the bush.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Theres a difference between supporting rangers in ANY division with a sustainable wage structure and "going down the divisions"...do catch up :-) . Did you know the FIFA14 demo is out? you could be on it now licking up the glamour anf the glitz of the prem in preparation for rangers magnificent return to compete for 7th place next season or in about 10 seasons in our half empty 40k venue sat next to tourist from Australia who was given a free ticket on her flight over. :-). Might get to see a fair representation of one of your heroes from the prem in all its pixellated goodness :-)

Don't know if you people in the 1970's have heard yet, but you don't really need a strict wage structure anymore when you are a regular in the premiership. The tv money paid out to the clubs in it is absolutley obscene.