Marshy - Should he stay or should he go?

[brightonr]

This MB is soft touch compared to the days of the Paladini wars, rusty trombone squad berating and the public breakdown of some of our more fragile members such as HA9Ranger and Neil.

If you are getting posts reported frequently then there are such proper ****as posting on here nowadays. Marshy is tame compared to bygone posters , I suggest you reply to these whinging ***** and tell them to get a life. Mind you if you are getting woken up in the early hours dealing with 'admin' problems then maybe you need to get one too.

This MB is becomimng full of some proper melts nowadays, its really is.

Reading through that well phrased work of art, I spotted some very valid points.

I fully agree that there is a lot less aggravation than during the time you refer to. Those great old days when instead of the likes of Marshy banging on about Taraabt and Redknapp, we had a large number of people making false, misleading allegations that they could never back up about a former chairman, various posters, etc. How refreshing it is to see that those days are mostly behind us. Marshy's attempts to spam the messageboard are no different to all the nonsense spouted by certain people back then. The funniest thing about it was that so many of the anti GP brigade chose this site to bleat about him. Maybe because they mistakenly thought he had some involvement. Same as they mistakenly thought other things, but always failed to prove them. Not that I was either pro or anti, but the fact that some just couldn't stop squealing used to make me laugh.

Much the same as Marshy makes me laugh today. Most can see that generally speaking, he makes a fool of himself. Not necessarily because of his views on the game, but due to how he chooses to put them across. Probably got OCD if the number of times he manages to use derivatives of the word "Bully" is anything to go by.

But what I find most intriguing of all, is the inability of some to just laugh it off and not get wound up by it. The way that some call for bans and action, instead of just dealing with the fact that some people will have different opinions. The way that they label them Fulham fans, which has just got to be the most ridiculous response ever. A psychiatrist's dream, I should think. And other than particularly nasty or racist type posts, should grown men and women really need to squeal about the ramblings of others?

Aside from the fact that it doesn't sit too well within the site's rules, the swearing doesn't particularly bother me in the slightest. Once again, if one cannot compose a paragraph or two without using certain words that actually don't add anything to their point, it says more about them than anybody else.

But thank you for reminding us all that in the main, the majority of people on this board now get on pretty well considering they hold a wide range of opinions, which is to their credit and certainly an improvement on those previous times. A big thank you to all of them, as within reason, all views are welcome and we all know what this board would resemble if we spent the entire time agreeing with others.

Sorry for rambling on, but think we should all just act on here as we would face to face, down the pub. Far more interesting to read someone else's opinion and examine why they feel that way instead of just dismissing it out of hand due to it being different to the one we may hold.

[Geng]

Park as a RB and Mackie as a DM was his latest 2 crusades.... the guy is either attention seeking or a fan of another club on the wind up. He doesnt like being disagreed with and is out to "destroy" other peoples opinions.

The former idea is sensible albeit not something I'd agree with. The latter is daft, and I've just said why in that other thread. But at least he's throwing some original opinions out there, usually with explanations for why he thinks that way.

I think Marshy would respond better to being disagreed with if people said what was wrong with the post (eg mine and others responses to Mackie as a CM) rather than just writing 'idiot!' 'troll!' etc etc

[twranger]

I like how everyone is parroting the line about Marshy's posts being mindless, or drivel, or whatever you want to call it, when they are consistently some of the best argued posts on this forum, even the ones I don't agree with. His OPs are regularly met with a load of one line cliches, rather than responses that actually engage with Marshy's points.

I think people here are having trouble separating Marshy's actual arguments from the tone of his posting. Obviously he writes provocative posts, and starts an annoying amount of threads, we all know that. But he kicks off important debates, and this forum badly needs this.

Parroting is a very good description...agree with a lot of this be honest. Agreed that the chap is very vociferous in his views and opinions, but unless the guy has contravened any forum rules in some way just either ignore him or engage in sensible debate with him.....do one or the other, but the constant slagging him off can be just as tedious as some view his threads.

[vblockranger]

I like how everyone is parroting the line about Marshy's posts being mindless, or drivel, or whatever you want to call it, when they are consistently some of the best argued posts on this forum, even the ones I don't agree with. His OPs are regularly met with a load of one line cliches, rather than responses that actually engage with Marshy's points.

I think people here are having trouble separating Marshy's actual arguments from the tone of his posting. Obviously he writes provocative posts, and starts an annoying amount of threads, we all know that. But he kicks off important debates, and this forum badly needs this.

Park as a RB and Mackie as a DM was his latest 2 crusades.... the guy is either attention seeking or a fan of another club on the wind up. He doesnt like being disagreed with and is out to "destroy" other peoples opinions.

[Stanley]

A moderator has a responsibility to ensure the forum runs smoothly for the greater benefit of all visitors to the site. Whilst we always encourage healthy and lively debate a clear line has to be drawn when the same poster becomes the constant cause of thread-hijacking and flame-wars.

[Geng]

And I dont think:

a) mob justice should be used to decide whether posters are banned here

b) that 65% is anywhere near a strong enough mandate to ban someone, even if we did decide to go for mob rules

[Geng]

I like how everyone is parroting the line about Marshy's posts being mindless, or drivel, or whatever you want to call it, when they are consistently some of the best argued posts on this forum, even the ones I don't agree with. His OPs are regularly met with a load of one line cliches, rather than responses that actually engage with Marshy's points.

I think people here are having trouble separating Marshy's actual arguments from the tone of his posting. Obviously he writes provocative posts, and starts an annoying amount of threads, we all know that. But he kicks off important debates, and this forum badly needs this.

[Tarbie]

I actually agree with W12.......that said I did still vote that Marshy should be banned. Getting totally bored of logging on to see his mindless pro Taarabt rubbish and his single minded responses without paying any attention to points posed by others on the thread.

All that said, I remember the days when Ted (or Dexter For England as he used to be) used to wind me up a treat. These days I just laugh at his nonsense!

[Fraggy]

This MB is soft touch compared to the days of the Paladini wars, rusty trombone squad berating and the public breakdown of some of our more fragile members such as HA9Ranger and Neil.

If you are getting posts reported frequently then there are such proper ****as posting on here nowadays. Marshy is tame compared to bygone posters , I suggest you reply to these whinging ***** and tell them to get a life. Mind you if you are getting woken up in the early hours dealing with 'admin' problems then maybe you need to get one too.

This MB is becomimng full of some proper melts nowadays, its really is.

I agree with most of what you have said W12; but we have to remember that not everyone is a tough as you :strive:

[Fraggy]

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Being 5 hours behind the majority of you & having to keep my phone/email on for work reasons, means I have lost count of the amount of times I have been woken up in the early hours with either someone reporting a member for a being an idiot or someone claiming they are being bullied..

Two things: you should set your phone on a timer for the hours you should be sleeping if you can and can anyone guess who the bully claims came from?[/QUOTE]

I wish Gator; as I am on salary, I have to available 24/7; lost count of how many times the alarm company has called me in the middle of the night due to a slight power flicker.

[Stanley]

can anyone guess who the bully claims came from?

There's nothing to guess. AFAIK none of them came via PM or offline; all Marshy's so-called "bullying" claims are on the public forum for everyone to judge. IOW they've been created in no place other than his own fertile imagination.

I trust this "busts another myth"

[vblockranger]

running to mods claiming they are being bullied on an internet messageboard ffs...pathetic.

[gator]

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Being 5 hours behind the majority of you & having to keep my phone/email on for work reasons, means I have lost count of the amount of times I have been woken up in the early hours with either someone reporting a member for a being an idiot or someone claiming they are being bullied..[/QUOTE]


Two things: you should set your phone on a timer for the hours you should be sleeping if you can and can anyone guess who the bully claims came from?

Still go

[W12_Ranger]

As previously mentioned, we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

I too think it slightly distasteful that we have to hold such a poll that singles out one individual.
However, this proves that the team of admins/mods take the moderation of this board very seriously.
It proves that there isn’t just one person who holds all the cards & makes all the decisions.
Everything we do for this board, we do as a team; every decision that affects the board is voted on; & in this case, where there is a stalemate, we had no other option than to take a suggestion from our members & put up this poll.
Although most see Myu as the owner of the board, Myu keeps us all up to date with every single aspect that affects the running of this board. The transparency is very refreshing.

Some have mentioned the use of the ‘ignore’ option; this works great for the most part, bust as soon as someone quotes a person that you have on your banned list; you get to see their post.

What most on here are not aware of; is the amount of PM’s we receive from our members. I get an Email alert every time someone sends me a PM or somebody reports a post. Being 5 hours behind the majority of you & having to keep my phone/email on for work reasons, means I have lost count of the amount of times I have been woken up in the early hours with either someone reporting a member for a being an idiot or someone claiming they are being bullied.

The results of this poll while I am composing this message sits at +60% in favour of banning Marshy.
54 members (mostly regulars) want him gone; so what would the other 29 members who don’t want him gone, suggest we do to appease the 54?
If anyone can come up with a better solution, we are all ears.

This MB is soft touch compared to the days of the Paladini wars, rusty trombone squad berating and the public breakdown of some of our more fragile members such as HA9Ranger and Neil.

If you are getting posts reported frequently then there are such proper ****as posting on here nowadays. Marshy is tame compared to bygone posters , I suggest you reply to these whinging ***** and tell them to get a life. Mind you if you are getting woken up in the early hours dealing with 'admin' problems then maybe you need to get one too.

This MB is becomimng full of some proper melts nowadays, its really is.