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  • Southport
    Bronze Seat
    • Jul 2014
    • 473

    #1366
    The most important thing for a PM is to show good judgement. George Osbourne showed awful judgement when he talked of the budget that would follow an exit vote, and has destroyed his career. Gove could be the right person. If, in his meeting with Boris yesterday, Boris refused to confirm that he would invoke article 50, then Gove could be the right man to be the PM.

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    • James1979
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4857

      #1367
      May is meant to be strong willed. I think you need charisma and strength to be leader. I don't see both of those traits in any of candidates unfortunately. All candidates will respect the referendum result, so I wouldn't worry if person is Brexit or not. Looking at state of parties now, I think UKIP and Lib Dems would do very well in next election. See lib Dems being key part of a coalition government with Labour (if Corbyn goes) would be my bet.

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      • jmelanie
        Gold Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 7525

        #1368
        Originally posted by James1979
        Gove is a smart chap but as a leader to represent us strongly at home and abroad? No thanks. Boris is a bumbling buffoon. Other 2 would be ok. Labour needs to sort itself out as need a strong opposition with reputable leader.
        At this time we need a diplomat, who at the same time can make decisions. I think he might be able to do this.

        Guess he listened to his wife.

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        • brightonr
          Banned
          • Mar 2009
          • 10922

          #1369
          What a twist.

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          • bakes8
            Silver Seat
            • Jan 2014
            • 4561

            #1370
            Boris not standing. Wow!

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            • Jeems
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2012
              • 2857

              #1371
              Probably been offered a front bench role under Gove

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              • Shania
                C Club
                • Apr 2010
                • 23696

                #1372
                For what it´s Worth: Johnson and May are being discussed on Norwegian telly today. Theresa May seems to be a favourite amongst the "pundits" here.
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                • bakes8
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 4561

                  #1373
                  Originally posted by Shania
                  For what it´s Worth: Johnson and May are being discussed on Norwegian telly today. Theresa May seems to be a favourite amongst the "pundits" here.
                  Where was she during the Brexit debate? A non-committed Remainer? Do me a favour.

                  We need strong leadership in this country, not some flake without conviction.

                  Gove should get the top job, not against May being Deputy tho, but that's as far as she should go.

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                  • Shania
                    C Club
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 23696

                    #1374
                    Ok, point taken bakes8. But you will also need a person with a diplomatic charisma about him or her. May is not that type of person, I take? Ps. I will do a bit of reserch on Gove before I can comment on him...
                    Anyway, this is your debate
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                    • Snaxo
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 732

                      #1375
                      What a surprise Boris is not standing (not!). Cameron 1 Johnson 0. Johnson evidences why this was all about self-interest, and not the right decision for the country.

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                      • bakes8
                        Silver Seat
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 4561

                        #1376
                        Originally posted by Shania
                        Ok, point taken bakes8. But you will also need a person with a diplomatic charisma about him or her. May is not that type of person, I take? Ps. I will do a bit of reserch on Gove before I can comment on him...
                        Anyway, this is your debate
                        Michael Gove is a Qpr supporter Shania. You can stop your research now

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                        • bakes8
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 4561

                          #1377
                          Originally posted by Snaxo
                          What a surprise Boris is not standing (not!). Cameron 1 Johnson 0. Johnson evidences why this was all about self-interest, and not the right decision for the country.
                          ?? Cameron 1-0 Johnson?

                          More like Cameron 1-15 Johnson. Boris has effectively killed both Cameron and Osbornes careers.

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                          • Snaxo
                            Bronze Seat
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 732

                            #1378
                            Originally posted by bakes8
                            ?? Cameron 1-0 Johnson?

                            More like Cameron 1-15 Johnson. Boris has effectively killed both Cameron and Osbornes careers.
                            No, everything changed for Johnson when Cameron resigned and unexpectedly (but cleverly) passed the responsibility to invoke article 50 to the next Tory leader.
                            Boris isn,t stupid, the next Tory Prime Minister will go down in history as the one who pulled us out of Europe (especially if known as a leader of the leave campaign) and with the associated repercussions which will possibly last years before theyfully stabilise, knows we won't get what he promised. He'll be voted out of leadership as quickly as he was voted in, and he knows it full well. He might act the bumbling idiot but he isn't. But he was well and truly 'played' by Cameron here.
                            Last edited by Snaxo; 30-06-2016, 12:19 PM.

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                            • Shania
                              C Club
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 23696

                              #1379
                              Originally posted by bakes8
                              Michael Gove is a Qpr supporter Shania. You can stop your research now
                              Ok, offcourse. That must count massively: As a fan he has first hand experience about how leadership should not be executed. Haha.
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                              • cross it Dave
                                Silver Seat
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3801

                                #1380
                                Originally posted by bakes8
                                Where was she during the Brexit debate? A non-committed Remainer? Do me a favour.

                                We need strong leadership in this country, not some flake without conviction.

                                Gove should get the top job, not against May being Deputy tho, but that's as far as she should go.
                                I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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