QPR as a business model...

[vblockranger]

what is our business model? Do we even have one? How will we be able to support ourselves without a steady intake of money from the board? Is there a loan in place from investors? Will we have a vast debt owed to an investor? where is all the money coming from as TF is not that rich? Mittal?. TF is getting all the adulation and plaudits from the fans but who is the real investor? All looks rosy short term but what about 3 -5 years down the line? How will we self sustain ourselves? 35k stadium is not going to be that easy to fill in a city with 5? other prem sides and i hope TF realises that no matter how well he markets it if theres not enough football fans/tourists to go around theres no one else to fill it.

am i worrying just for the sake of worrying as everything looks too good to be true ??? :-)

[EYR]

We are following whats known as the 'Pompey' model and is written about in Peter Ridsdale autobiography 'Sh*t or Bust'.

[vblockranger]

We are following whats known as the 'Pompey' model and is written about in Peter Ridsdale autobiography 'Sh*t or Bust'.

lol exactly what i am worrying about!!

[EYR]

We are having to work twice as hard in the marketing/promoting of the club to compensate for the lost revenue due to having a small ground.

[Stanley]

Is there a loan in place from investors? Will we have a vast debt owed to an investor?

The club has zero loans and zero debts - Amit has stressed that several times now in interviews. It's their own personal investments as he's made it clear he doesn't want the club to get saddled with any debt. They've also said the plan is for the club to eventually become self-sustaining.

TF has a consortium of some very wealthy partners and shareholders + Mittal investment too.

They all appear to be very much in it for the long-term and clearly seem genuinely passionate about the club. Not sure what more we could ask for.

[QPR DEVON]

the plan i would assume is buy the club for £50m (or whatever), remain in the premiership, increase the brand and world wide supporters and so on. very soon the club isnt worth £50m but £200m. so even if they put in £100m of their own money they still make a profit, if they ever wished to sell (same plan as flav & bernie). the long term aim i presume is to get us as a top 4-6 club, you are then looking at a club worth £4-500m.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

I don't know about Malaysians, but Britons aren't very good at doing the old business malarkey, even the Cadbury family couldn't hang on to their legacy.

[James1979]

As said above, no debt in the company. All been paid for by shareholder loans. We'll know more when we see the next set of accounts.
Income can't support outlay with 18k ground. That's why we're looking for a new ground and new income in Asia.

[Jeems]

Asia will play a huge part in our growth - from QPR merchandise/sim cards out there to shirt sales and who knows what else. With such a number of tourists and foreign students in London, we will fill up the new stadium, especially as we have 2-3 years min to build up a sizeable fan base.

Just need the few idiots on qpr's facebook page to stop goading the new foreign fans!

[silvercue]

the new TV deals mean the ground size is not as important as it used to be in terms fo revenue generation. But it makes the club look more attractive.

[QPR Richard]

I believe the new stadium will be self-financing with naming rights and additional activities. Matchday revenue alone will increase by over half a million a game. The new TV deal is an extra source of revenue. Increased income as QPR is opened up to new markets overseas attracting more sponsorship and merchandise sales.

There's probably a whole load of extra things but I'm sure TF and the investors know exactly what they're doing.

[qpr]

the new TV deals mean the ground size is not as important as it used to be in terms fo revenue generation. But it makes the club look more attractive.

Good point. I Really am not worried while Amit is here,,, QPR have zero debt as well

[ollyhoops]

what is our business model? Do we even have one? How will we be able to support ourselves without a steady intake of money from the board? Is there a loan in place from investors? Will we have a vast debt owed to an investor? where is all the money coming from as TF is not that rich? Mittal?. TF is getting all the adulation and plaudits from the fans but who is the real investor? All looks rosy short term but what about 3 -5 years down the line? How will we self sustain ourselves? 35k stadium is not going to be that easy to fill in a city with 5? other prem sides and i hope TF realises that no matter how well he markets it if theres not enough football fans/tourists to go around theres no one else to fill it.

am i worrying just for the sake of worrying as everything looks too good to be true ??? :-)

Ok,

We are in safe hands and this is not Portsmouth Mk2 as other members like west ham has suggested.

1. Portsmouth were sold to an arab that didn't even exist, which was why it went wrong for them. The real owner took all the assets and ran up the debt and vanished.
2. Any club in the Premiership that drops to the 1st Division would be in trouble, not just QPR.
3. Amit & Mittals have already said that there is no debt at the club as it has been funded by them. No loans. fact.
4. Asia as others have mentioned is crucial, in South Korea we sold 250,000 shirts with the name Park stamped on the back. That is great business.
5. The new stadium will play a big part in generating new income for the future of the club, it will be a multi purpose stadium with top class facilities.
6. Loftus Road together with Chelsea and Fulham are the most expensive grounds in the world. W12 alone is £20m per acre, we have a valuable asset.
7. The TV revenue went up 15% as it has now been sold to more countries world wide including Asia.
8. We won't be spending big come January (if at all) and next summer we will have a quiet one, it seems they are investing in the squad this year with the idea of keeping this side for a few years.
9. remember we are West London, we are in the best catchment area in the world. QPR will grow over years.
10. Stop worrying, we are not pompey mk2, they had dodgy owners that never existed. We have the Mittals and Fernandes, plus better value assets.

[qpr]

Very good points Ollly, it's weird to think Loftus Road is actually the 3rd best ground in England (well regarding money anyway)

[Franky Boy]

Very good points Ollly, it's weird to think Loftus Road is actually the 3rd best ground in England (well regarding money anyway)

what do you mean the money it genarates or what? how much it costs?