Good post Bush and brilliant point about interpretation, this directive to me, has always left the game open to corruption, as has the complete unaccountability of referees, to the mainstay of the game ....the fans.
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The officials are still human, and in a case like today, the offside decision was wrong, that wasn't down to interpretation?Originally posted by BUSHRANGER1982 View PostThere is only one answer, take away from referees the option to "interpret" the laws of the game, and instead force referees to apply the laws as written down.
Sometimes, decisions will seem harsh as the letter of the law is applied, but that would affect all clubs, and not just the few.
I understand the frustration and we all feel the same, but I don't understand how we can take interpretation out of the referees hands, when they have to make split second decisions, based on what they see or don't see.
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Maybe we should make the rules as black and white as possible, because while theres interpretation theres always the chance of cheating, and yes i agree that today wasn't about interpretation it was plain at best guessing .Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View PostThe officials are still human, and in a case like today, the offside decision was wrong, that wasn't down to interpretation?
I understand the frustration and we all feel the same, but I don't understand how we can take interpretation out of the referees hands, when they have to make split second decisions, based on what they see or don't see.
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Someone needs to explain to them that it's there to make the game fair.Originally posted by QPRDave View PostI don't know W12,.... but isn't it normally the case that these big teams start threatening to break away into a European Super League if the small also rans start to get too big for their boots? Maybe wrong.
How many points clear are Utd now, how many points have the official's given them this year?
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No, unless of course, it affects Sly's chances of making a quick buck, and then they just might.Originally posted by cross it Dave View PostSo will the owners of football, Sky, have a word with their puppets at the FA for making their product mickey mouse?.
But, I'm sorry if this is going to offend some people, but the absolute plethora of poor decisions from refs/linos this season, makes the premier league look like a Mickey Mouse product, and it's the premier league/FA that has to get to grips with it, otherwise people will lose interest, heart, fall out of love with it, that is inevitable.
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It's a combination of bias towards the bigger team, intimidation by a huge home crowd, and the fact that the big teams spend more time on the attack and in possession and so are likely to have more penalty shouts, tackles attempted against them etcOriginally posted by cross it Dave View PostThey are human, though some illegitimate, but that does not explain why so many decisions are a tad biais to the larger team, especially when at home.
By the same token, the smaller clubs will have less possession less chances, so individual decisions are always going to seem more significant in comparison.
Not excusing crap officialling (and it has certainly been a bad year), but I don't believe there's a conspiracy at the FA against us.
I do believe playing for the national team does seem to buy a little leeway from the officials and the FA though. *dons tin foil hat*
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We were discussing this referee yesterday on here, Bolton fan and will do us over and guess what happened?Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View PostIt's a combination of bias towards the bigger team, intimidation by a huge home crowd, and the fact that the big teams spend more time on the attack and in possession and so are likely to have more penalty shouts, tackles attempted against them etc
By the same token, the smaller clubs will have less possession less chances, so individual decisions are always going to seem more significant in comparison.
Not excusing crap officialling (and it has certainly been a bad year), but I don't believe there's a conspiracy at the FA against us.
I do believe playing for the national team does seem to buy a little leeway from the officials and the FA though. *dons tin foil hat*
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Thing is deepcut we've had game changing decisions as you well know against the giants of our game, namely Naaridge, WBA, and ex hoofball champs Bolton, so it's not just the big teams getting decisions over us.
And finally been said 100 times what the hell is a bolton fan doing reffing our game
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There was nothing stopping the lino flagging for a blatant offside, which would have made Ashley Young's disgraceful cheating redundant.Originally posted by silvercue View PostThe money is going to slow down big time soon anyway - you can not be legally challenged showing foreign TV chanels and internet streaming will get better and better.
The problem is that players try and cheat constantly - makes the refs job impossible to do 100% right.
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So there is a conspiracy at the FA to get us relegated, and they've done this by not only screwing us over with decisions, but by making us make suicidally bad decisons in games and play really really badly on many occasions?Originally posted by QPRDave View PostThing is deepcut we've had game changing decisions as you well know against the giants of our game, namely Naaridge, WBA, and ex hoofball champs Bolton, so it's not just the big teams getting decisions over us.
And finally been said 100 times what the hell is a bolton fan doing reffing our game
We've been on the end of bad decisions. That's not arguable.
It's frustrating yes, but it's not the FA trying to relegate us. It's just not.
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But you don't know that, there's alot of money swilling around in football, who would have thought they would discover match fixing in that game played by and followed by gentleman...cricketOriginally posted by DeepcutHoop View PostSo there is a conspiracy at the FA to get us relegated, and they've done this by not only screwing us over with decisions, but by making us make suicidally bad decisons in games and play really really badly on many occasions?
We've been on the end of bad decisions. That's not arguable.
It's frustrating yes, but it's not the FA trying to relegate us. It's just not.
btw if you think back to that hearing there's no way they wanted to leave that as a fine, if they had it wouldn't have taken them till sat lunchtime to say no points deduction, we forced their hand
imo by fighting it hard, and it would have made a farce out of the end of the season imoLast edited by QPRDave; 08-04-2012, 11:32 PM.
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Taking away their ability to "interpret" the laws, and replace that with an instruction saying they must always apply the laws as written down, is the only fair way to ditch this constant controversy that seems to dog English football.Originally posted by QPRDave View PostGood post Bush and brilliant point about interpretation, this directive to me, has always left the game open to corruption, as has the complete unaccountability of referees, to the mainstay of the game ....the fans.
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