European Super League

[SheepRanger]

Instead of trying to restructure the game and rinse more money out of it they should be looking at why people are being turned off. It's no longer a sport, it's a business with greedy owners, obnoxious, over-paid prima donnas for players, with a system where the wealthy get wealthier and the poorer don't. Not to mention the farkin TV broadcasters that are now more important than everyone else, the largely incompetent referees and the ridiculousness that is VAR.

Rant over.

And dont forget that there can be more women presenters than men, on men's football. On the Beeb there was a panel of three once, one male host and two female presenters. I feel that Diversity and Inclusion is being rammed down my throat from all angles and every TV advert seems to have a mixed race couple in it. I'm very close to cancelling my TV licence and just streaming films and series from Netflix. The whole live TV thing at the moment is getting more tedious by the year. This taking the knee thing was embarrassing. I'm getting too old for all this constant voke stuff. You cant even laugh at midgets anymore!!

[gator]

And dont forget that there can be more women presenters than men, on men's football. On the Beeb there was a panel of three once, one male host and two female presenters. I feel that Diversity and Inclusion is being rammed down my throat from all angles and every TV advert seems to have a mixed race couple in it. I'm very close to cancelling my TV licence and just streaming films and series from Netflix. The whole live TV thing at the moment is getting more tedious by the year. This taking the knee thing was embarrassing. I'm getting too old for all this constant voke stuff. You cant even laugh at midgets anymore!!

I don't want to get in to the diversity debate because you can't win, let's just say I agree with your post, we are seeing the same thing here in Canada!

[SheepRanger]

I don't want to get in to the diversity debate because you can't win, let's just say I agree with your post, we are seeing the same thing here in Canada!

No, let's not go off topic.

But lets just finish this off by saying that the vast majority of people who do and will continue to support football are men, and we get enough D&I re-education in work. The average football fan does not connect to this Metro Male approach. It's an issue that broadcasters need to consider; especially if as stated, the younger generation are getting turned off by football. Everything in life is becoming sterile and premiership football is leading the way. European Super League - stick it up your...................

[stanistheman]

Perhaps fans are getting turned off by watching the same team elite teams competing for and winning all the trophies every season. There's very little competition in it now that this band of 15-24 clubs are dominating the game in the UK & Europe.


And Colin Murray had this to write about it today in the Metro:
https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/23/footb...-esl-14458313/

[SheepRanger]

Perhaps fans are getting turned off by watching the same team elite teams competing for and winning all the trophies every season. There's very little competition in it now that this band of 15-24 clubs are dominating the game in the UK & Europe.


And Colin Murray had this to write about it today in the Metro:
https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/23/footb...-esl-14458313/

Not sure about that. It used to be the big four and now you could look down to the top 9 and wouldnt be surprised to see any of them in the top 6. Perhaps not Everton but they have a new £500m stadium on order. Isnt that why these six want to guarantee their place in the ESL because of the threat to their spending by West Ham, Leicester and Everton? Unfortunately these clubs are budgeted to assume they will get Champions League and 3-4 of them are in the sh1t if they dont make it. There is plenty of money there with Sky if they budgeted not to qualify for the champions league or FFP actually worked. They want stable budgets at the expense of competition. Be cautious and dont over budget and expect qualification.

[SheepRanger]

And stop paying ludicrous sums of money for players and their wages. A salary cap would benefit all of them but they'd rather shaft the fans than even consider that.

Yup, that's the nub of it.

At least 5 teams over spending to get four Champions League slots, and other clubs are muscling in too upsetting their business model. Cut your cloth and dont expect......

[LoftusRoadLad]

Player	Age	Weekly Wage	Contract until
David de Gea	29	£375,000	2023-06-30
Sergio Romero	33	£70,000	2021-06-30
Dean Henderson	23	£120,000	2025-06-30
Lee Grant	37	£30,000	2020-06-30
Marcos Rojo	30	£80,000	2021-06-30
Phil Jones	28	£75,000	2023-06-30
Diogo Dalot	21	£25,000	2023-06-30
Alex Telles	27	£100,000	2024-06-30
Harry Maguire	27	£195,000	2025-06-30
Axel Tuanzebe	22	–	2022-06-30
Eric Bailly	26	£80,000	2022-06-30
Victor Lindelof	26	£120,000	2024-06-30
Luke Shaw	25	£150,000	2023-06-30
Aaron Wan-Bissaka	22	£90,000	2024-06-30
Nemanja Matic	32	£140,000	2023-06-30
Fred	27	£120,000	2023-06-30
Scott McTominay	23	£10,000	2025-06-30
Daniel James	22	£45,000	2024-06-30
Donny van de Beek	23	£110,000	2025-06-30
Juan Mata	32	£160,000	2021-06-30
Jesse Lingard	26	£100,000	2021-06-30
Bruno Fernandes	26	£180,000	2025-06-30
Paul Pogba	25	£290,000	2021-06-30
Mason Greenwood	18	£35,000	2023-06-30
Facundo Pellistri	21	–	2025-06-30
Anthony Martial	24	£250,000	2024-06-30
Andreas Pereira	24	£30,000	2023-06-30
Marcus Rashford	22	£250,000	2023-06-30
Edinson Cavani	33	£210,000	2021-06-30

[LoftusRoadLad]

Daft init.

[Macca]

These clubs should be punished, but you get these tv pundits say you can't deduct them points, because its not the fans fault, but they don't say that when a team in the championship get done for breaking ffp rules.
It's exactly the same it's the owners that overspend not the fans, but it's ok they are not important enough.
Talk about hypocrisy.

[topperharley]

No, let's not go off topic.

But lets just finish this off by saying that the vast majority of people who do and will continue to support football are men, and we get enough D&I re-education in work. The average football fan does not connect to this Metro Male approach. It's an issue that broadcasters need to consider; especially if as stated, the younger generation are getting turned off by football. Everything in life is becoming sterile and premiership football is leading the way. European Super League - stick it up your...................

Wait till Charlie hangs up his boots and gets into punditry, should even up the odds a little!

[stanistheman]

These clubs should be punished, but you get these tv pundits say you can't deduct them points, because its not the fans fault, but they don't say that when a team in the championship get done for breaking ffp rules.
It's exactly the same it's the owners that overspend not the fans, but it's ok they are not important enough.
Talk about hypocrisy.

I agree.

Perhaps the FA Premier League, FA and FL will come up with something similar to what they have now done in Italy to stop any future attempts at a breakaway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56892039