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  • CroydonCaptainJack
    Gold Seat
    • Jan 2011
    • 6141

    #16
    Originally posted by Rebel R's
    So Birmingham join the relegation battle ,can't see them going down,they are in good form
    The form table would suggest otherwise.


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    • YoungR1
      Apprentice
      • Dec 2018
      • 91

      #17
      Hate FFP. Worst thing to happen to our game ever. No more level playing fields, no more dreams and aspirations, if you are a small club you have absolutely no chance of competing with the big boys. You used to get Watford, Norwich, Villa, Blackburn even us challenging at the top of the league... that will never happen again and I find it very sad the money men have stolen the dreams of the smaller teams.

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      • davieqpr
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2011
        • 2804

        #18
        Originally posted by Rebel R's
        So Birmingham join the relegation battle ,can't see them going down,they are in good form
        Look at their next 5 fixtures though. They include West Brom (A) Leeds , Sheff Utd and Derby (H). Not the easiest.

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        • qpr
          Platinum Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 10372

          #19
          We’ve gone up a place in the league table lads !!!!!!
          Under Les Ferdinand:
          Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
          Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
          Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
          Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
          And many more mistakes

          LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO

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          • QPRDave
            The number 10
            • Mar 2009
            • 32079

            #20
            Originally posted by 3London
            And in the mean time Man City and the other big teams get away Scot free-imagine docking city 9 points
            EFL have got this all wrong I've been saying it repeatedly. You can't have people in suits determining where a team
            finishes, or what their ambitions can be. Our owners have ripped no one off.
            They have accepted the debt and gone about paying it back to whoever.
            They have not cut and run, they are trying to build the club, structurally off the field as well as on.
            And only in this mad world we live in do people fine a club millions of pounds who are in debt anyway

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            • SheepRanger
              Administrator
              • Apr 2018
              • 8475

              #21
              If a billionaire wants to spend all his money on a football club then why cant he. Clubs go up and down the leagues. Even Torquay are still going in the Nationdl League South I think. How many clubs have gone but never to be seen again. Even Accrington and Wimbledon are back

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              • qprjeff1882
                Silver Seat
                • Aug 2009
                • 4080

                #22
                The whole thing is a farce. Kinda give other clubs carte blanche to go hell for leather to try and get promoted to the premiership knowing that if they just miss out they'll only drop a few places. Sadly i doubt this'll be any deterrent at all.

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                • TBLOCKRANGER
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2909

                  #23
                  Originally posted by YoungR1
                  Hate FFP. Worst thing to happen to our game ever. No more level playing fields, no more dreams and aspirations, if you are a small club you have absolutely no chance of competing with the big boys. You used to get Watford, Norwich, Villa, Blackburn even us challenging at the top of the league... that will never happen again and I find it very sad the money men have stolen the dreams of the smaller teams.
                  Leicester showed the dream is still alive and kicking.
                  Watford & Wolves doing well. Also, Bournemouth who are probably th smallest club I've ever known in the prem are doing fine.
                  Prem or Division One was generally owned by the big clubs. Every so often a small club wins it, such as Forest or Blackburn but always been a once in s generation phenomenon.
                  Dont think much changes. The playing field has always been uneven.

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                  • Rebel R's
                    King of Pessimism
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 12266

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CroydonCaptainJack

                    The form table would suggest otherwise.

                    I agree,I stand corrected

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                    • QPRDave
                      The number 10
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 32079

                      #25
                      Originally posted by qprjeff1882
                      The whole thing is a farce. Kinda give other clubs carte blanche to go hell for leather to try and get promoted to the premiership knowing that if they just miss out they'll only drop a few places. Sadly i doubt this'll be any deterrent at all.
                      Not much of a deterrent i agree. Just a I'm in charge statement from fl bunch of ######s

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                      • Bill
                        Silver Seat
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 4490

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sleeping Giants

                        So we get a £42 Million fine which hits us for 10 years and they get docked 9 points which sees them comfortably mid table given their form?...How is that fair?
                        No continuity whatsoever we get 17 mil fine and a case that has taken its toll on our club.Brum get 9 point
                        deduction stay in current league and no financial penalty.

                        This Ffp thing is a total farce

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                        • Fraggy
                          Administrator
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 9727

                          #27
                          Frustrating as hell.
                          If they want some form of continuity, then surely a wage cap, based on whatever division you are in would be the way forward?
                          Like many have said, how does a financial fine make sense if a club is already in debt?
                          Minds Are Like Parachutes.
                          Work Best When Open...
                          @Nowt2SeeHere

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                          • SheepRanger
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 8475

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bill

                            No continuity whatsoever we get 17 mil fine and a case that has taken its toll on our club.Brum get 9 point
                            deduction stay in current league and no financial penalty.

                            This Ffp thing is a total farce
                            Our financial penalty has nothing to do with FFP. The FA has been looking to get even with us since we wriggled out of the Faurlin saga with Paladini's delaying tactics during the hearing. We gave the FA the ammunition to get even with us.

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                            • Sleeping Giants
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3242

                              #29
                              Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER

                              Leicester showed the dream is still alive and kicking.
                              Watford & Wolves doing well. Also, Bournemouth who are probably th smallest club I've ever known in the prem are doing fine.
                              Prem or Division One was generally owned by the big clubs. Every so often a small club wins it, such as Forest or Blackburn but always been a once in s generation phenomenon.
                              Dont think much changes. The playing field has always been uneven.
                              I think Bournemouth were fined also.

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                              • Sleeping Giants
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3242

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SheepRanger

                                I take your point, but factually we were fined £17m with £3m costs.
                                Fair point...it was a £42 Million settlement that included shareholders having to write off £22 Million of debts, £3 Million costs and £17 Million fine.

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