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  • Qprtanpa1
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2014
    • 1793

    #1

    The Pawel Puzzle...

    When Pawel was fairly new to the squad I remember this goal he scored driving relentlessly to the goal, like he wouldn’t be stopped by anyone. He is not the same player anymore, and it’s not just the wingback lab disaster created by Ollie. Pawel looks tentative on the offensive end with little confidence or threat. Any guess as to why?
  • Romford Hoop
    Match Reporter & Referee
    • Mar 2009
    • 1615

    #2
    Being played at wing back has destroyed his confidence, although I never have rated him that highly,his movement is poor, and crosses are wayward as he cuts in too much.
    Not a player Holloway has helped with his persistence in playing wing backs.

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    • dogsrrs
      Gold Seat
      • Mar 2013
      • 6671

      #3
      Don't fully agree with being asked to play w/b has done him any harm he's just not good enough to play there as it shows his limitations as said his crosses are hesitant and often poor he's also indecisive , which shows the lack of quality and Ballance that has been brought to the club , at his age and amount football playedp he should be able to make a better fist of it , imo too much is made of players being played in other positions a manager can only work with what he's got , the bottom line is we have to many players that are just not good enough to be utilised elsewhere something Holloway should have realised quite a while ago

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      • MYU
        Administrator
        • Mar 2009
        • 43466

        #4
        Most players are good when they come, they leave worse players and then go on to be better again when they leave.

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        • dogsrrs
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2013
          • 6671

          #5
          Not to sure about any of that mate ! I don't see players leaving and going on to better things

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          • Kevin Mcleod
            Referee
            • Aug 2013
            • 17322

            #6
            Most players get moved to a different position and become even better. Not at qpr.
            Ask a player to play anywhere but his regular position at qpr and you might as well just retire him.

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            • Ginger Ninja
              W12 Seat
              • Jan 2010
              • 17458

              #7
              Clearly a player who has lost confidence in himself. Whether that's because Ollie plays him at wingback is debatable, imo a good player should be able to adapt to different situations (not to the extreme of, say, sticking a striker at CB, I mean Pawel is a winger, and has now playing wingback). The thing is if he was given a good run in the team he may have been able to tweak his game and get used to playing as a wingback, but Ollie dropped him at the first sign of him struggling, and imo that's hurt his confidence. Ollie not showing faith in him being able to adapt to playing wingback could be a reason for Pawel's drop in confidence. It's criminal imo, Pawel is a very good player on his day.
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              • Rangers77
                Platinum Seat
                • Aug 2012
                • 11808

                #8
                Served up a goal on a plate to Smith last night. Wonderful cross. Is far from his best as a RB or RWB. That's it.

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                • topperharley
                  Silver Seat
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 2048

                  #9
                  There's a reason he's in the championship and not been scouted by a prem club. He's at his level here. He wouldn't last a league up. If your a barista making decent flat whites in a new cafe, then the boss says, hey, can you go make cakes for a bit? Yeah sure you can make cakes, but not as good as coffee. Then you come back to coffee and it's like, damn where's the milk at?

                  It's a confidence thing, especially when you aren't outstandingly gifted. If played on the wing regularly he'd probably end up like the player we wanted Hoillett to be. Not many tricks but persistent and good ethic, capable of that odd cross or shot that changes the game.

                  Odd as that would seem a quality Ollie would warm to. Agreed he looks avergae at the moment, save afew moments last night.

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                  • davieqpr
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2804

                    #10
                    If Austin was still with us Holloway would be playing him on wing.

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                    • wortonranger
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 904

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MYU
                      Most players are good when they come, they leave worse players and then go on to be better again when they leave.
                      I think that’s probably not so - there are ample examples of players that leave and get nowhere. We simply don’t hear about them or take particular interest as they fail to hit any headlines. However those that do well are obvious. I bet you will find the great majority did very little, or, at best, dud ok at a lower level. How about Docherty and Gladwin at Swindon. I live in Wiltshire and would have expected their exploits to be in the headlines, but can’t say that’s been the case.

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                      • dogsrrs
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6671

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                        Most players get moved to a different position and become even better. Not at qpr.
                        Ask a player to play anywhere but his regular position at qpr and you might as well just retire him.
                        Well Mac Robinson ain't doing to badly in retirement

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                        • Stanley
                          Guest
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23693

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rangers77
                          Served up a goal on a plate to Smith last night. Wonderful cross. Is far from his best as a RB or RWB. That's it.
                          This.

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                          • Shepherds Mush
                            Platinum Seat
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 10325

                            #14
                            Only issue for me is his confidence in beating a defender and maybe that is because if he loses it he doesn't have the safety of a RB behind him.

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                            • Stanley
                              Guest
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 23693

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                              Only issue for me is his confidence in beating a defender and maybe that is because if he loses it he doesn't have the safety of a RB behind him.
                              Spot on again. Been saying same for ages.

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