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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostI can't see us (and frankly hope we don't think about) dropping Luongo as a long term thing. The guy is absolutely phenomenal on and off the ball. For me, he should be the first name in every starting 11 when fit and energised.
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Originally posted by West Acton View PostNed towards the end of the game picked ball up out wide level with our box and went on mazy run taking on and beating three or four of their players on his way to their box. Was a great run and whole away end was up thinking he was going beat last man and score.
Ccccchhhhiiieeeeeffffffff"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostI can't see us (and frankly hope we don't think about) dropping Luongo as a long term thing. The guy is absolutely phenomenal on and off the ball. For me, he should be the first name in every starting 11 when fit and energised.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostI read on twitter that Luongo has made the most succesful tackles of any other midfielder in the division with 22."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by West Acton View PostHe must have the lowest shooting percentage as can rarely recall him having a shot. Had perfect opportunity to shoot just inside the box yesterday and opted to pass backwards
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNot only that, most successful tackles of any player in the league, period, including defenders and attackers, joint with Conor Hourihane who has a worse success rate. Only 3 midfielders have made more successful dribbles than him as well, and for someone as short as him, he's won the 5th most aerial duels of any midfielder in the league, also, for people who say he doesn't do enough going forward, only 4 players have made more short key passes than him. The guy has been a rock for us and will only improve when one of Cousins or Borysuik come alongside him to give him a bit more freedom.
Goals - Zero
Assists - Zero
Shots Per Game: 0.4
Key Passes Per Game: 1
Dribbles Per Game: 1.4
He's been playing with Karl Henry, so I'm not sure how he's going to get more freedom?
Interestingly last season he made 30 league appearances starting 26:
Goals: Zero
Assists: 6
Shots Per Game: 0.9
Key Passes Per Game: 1.4
Dribbles Per Game: 1.2
He played quite a lot as our attacking midfielder as well.
Luongo the crab. Good squad player but offers nothing going forward and I believe we have better defensively.
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Originally posted by Mattyqpr View PostA small sample though isn't it mate!
Goals - Zero
Assists - Zero
Shots Per Game: 0.4
Key Passes Per Game: 1
Dribbles Per Game: 1.4
He's been playing with Karl Henry, so I'm not sure how he's going to get more freedom?
Interestingly last season he made 30 league appearances starting 26:
Goals: Zero
Assists: 6
Shots Per Game: 0.9
Key Passes Per Game: 1.4
Dribbles Per Game: 1.2
He played quite a lot as our attacking midfielder as well.
Luongo the crab. Good squad player but offers nothing going forward and I believe we have better defensively.Last edited by West Acton; 28-08-2016, 03:18 PM.
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People are getting him mixed up... he's a deep lying creative midfielder, not an attacking midfielder. People who think we have better defensively really need to pay attention to his play because his tackling quality is really phenomenal considering his limited reach due to his height, alongside his aerial prowess which is great too. Offensively, no one got more open play assists last season than him and he didn't take set pieces. We're nitpicking by saying he doesn't score because there are 4 players playing in front of him who should do that instead. He just needs to supply them. He doesn't like shooting because he's not good at it, but that's not the sort of player he is. He's the player who moves the ball from just before the centre circle to just outside the box. There, we'll have 4 players who can shoot and who should be doing it.
As for how he'll get more freedom with someone other than KH, the reason is simply pace. KH doesn't have it so Luongo tends to hang back and cover for him, meaning he releases the ball early as opposed to getting further forward because if anything happens, he knows KH can only do so much in terms of covering for him. With Cousins or Borysuik, he's got two players who can stay back when he goes forward and cover the entire centre of the park, as opposed to one side of it."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostPeople are getting him mixed up... he's a deep lying creative midfielder, not an attacking midfielder. People who think we have better defensively really need to pay attention to his play because his tackling quality is really phenomenal considering his limited reach due to his height, alongside his aerial prowess which is great too. Offensively, no one got more open play assists last season than him and he didn't take set pieces. We're nitpicking by saying he doesn't score because there are 4 players playing in front of him who should do that instead. He just needs to supply them. He doesn't like shooting because he's not good at it, but that's not the sort of player he is. He's the player who moves the ball from just before the centre circle to just outside the box. There, we'll have 4 players who can shoot and who should be doing it.
As for how he'll get more freedom with someone other than KH, the reason is simply pace. KH doesn't have it so Luongo tends to hang back and cover for him, meaning he releases the ball early as opposed to getting further forward because if anything happens, he knows KH can only do so much in terms of covering for him. With Cousins or Borysuik, he's got two players who can stay back when he goes forward and cover the entire centre of the park, as opposed to one side of it.
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