"The new qpr"

[Kevin Mcleod]

Reminds me I need a new pair of trainers.

New Yeezys are out Friday. .

[Stanley]

when people go on about the 250/300 million he's spent, bothered.

Fair enough but hopefully at least you now understand the alternative view (as above), which you said you didn't get.

[Hubble]

just because you've experienced something doesn't make it an empirical fact. The experience of others is equally valid and may not coincide with your findings.

Just sayin ;)

Actually, it is empirical evidence, since empirical is a "collective term for the knowledge or source of knowledge acquired by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation."

Of course, others experiences may differ. What about yours?

[hal9thou]

Let me help you, i don't give a fark what anyone but my missus spends or wastes money on, not my mates or people in the pub, nobody. And even less some rich bloke I've never met and never will meet. Does that help?
So when people go on about the 250/300 million he's spent, bothered.

Apart from Stan's point, it has to be said that if someone pours a vast amount of money into a project and it is in relative terms a major failure - and relatively speaking that level investment for this return is a major failure, whoever picks up the tab - people with an interest in the project are going to have very serious reservations.

And rightly so.

[Norths]

Let me help you, i don't give a fark what anyone but my missus spends or wastes money on, not my mates or people in the pub, nobody. And even less some rich bloke I've never met and never will meet. Does that help?
So when people go on about the 250/300 million he's spent, bothered.

Our club a rich mans plaything? Not one of your finest moments

[Hove Ranger]

Actually, it is empirical evidence, since empirical is a "collective term for the knowledge or source of knowledge acquired by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation."

Of course, others experiences may differ. What about yours?

I prefer the term a posteriori knowledge personally

[hal9thou]

Actually, it is empirical evidence, since empirical is a "collective term for the knowledge or source of knowledge acquired by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation."

Of course, others experiences may differ. What about yours?

Empirical in the accepted sense that it is scientifically (objectively) demonstrable. The root of empiricism does lie in evidence collected by means of sensory input, as you point out, but then all experience relating to the outside world is formed in the same way. QED?

My experience of QPR is that once again we are in a protracted shambolic phase.....

[Geng]

Let me help you, i don't give a fark what anyone but my missus spends or wastes money on, not my mates or people in the pub, nobody. And even less some rich bloke I've never met and never will meet. Does that help?
So when people go on about the 250/300 million he's spent, bothered.

"He" hasn't spent it. TF's net worth is around £400m, which will almost all be tied up in shares of AirAsia stock and so on. He never had a few hundred million lying around in his debit account ready to spunk on ageing footballers.

It's QPR that is £300m in debt – not TF personally. The fact we largely owe this to our owners rather than a bank or whatnot is marginally better than it might be, but it's still far, far from ideal.

And that's before we get to how willing you are for our club to become a rich man's plaything. Have some self-respect, Rangers!

[Geng]

Basically if, for whatever reason, we end up scraping around lower league 1 and TF and chums decide they've had enough...

They'll have to take the ~£300m hit or whatever it is, but we can hardly turn around to Leroy Fer or whoever and say "sorry mate, that was TF who signed you up to that contract, you'll have to ask him for your wages". Look at the likes of Portsmouth and Leeds, suffering for years after their original idiot owners left. This is our problem. And we'll be here long after any of the zillionaires.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Fair enough but hopefully at least you now understand the alternative view (as above), which you said you didn't get.

Yes of course I do, i asked and got a reasoned answer that I totally got and understood.
I'm just glad I don't fiscally or emotionally get tied into it, i really am.

[brightonr]

"He" hasn't spent it. TF's net worth is around £400m, which will almost all be tied up in shares of AirAsia stock and so on. He never had a few hundred million lying around in his debit account ready to spunk on ageing footballers.

It's QPR that is £300m in debt – not TF personally. The fact we largely owe this to our owners rather than a bank or whatnot is marginally better than it might be, but it's still far, far from ideal.

And that's before we get to how willing you are for our club to become a rich man's plaything. Have some self-respect, Rangers!

Were you on holiday when they effectively wrote it all off by converting it into equity?

[Kevin Mcleod]

It's QPR that is £300m in debt – not TF personally. The fact we largely owe this to our owners rather than a bank or whatnot is marginally better than it might be, but it's still far, far from ideal.

So we are still in that debt, i thought they totally wrote it off, which means that nobody owes anyone anything.?
I'm confused again.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

Coming onto this site is a continual source of dissapointment to me at the moment.
The same old suspects starting various new 'we are all doomed' threads.
We played badly Saturday and got well beaten by a better team on the day. The previous week we were the better side beating a team much higher up the league than us. That is the nature of the Championship I am afraid. There are no easy games and ironically there are no hard games either.
A sense of perspective needed I feel.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

So we are still in that debt, i thought they totally wrote it off, which means that nobody owes anyone anything.?
I'm confused again.

And the number goes up every week on here Kev!

[brightonr]

A sense of perspective needed I feel.

Ah, but whose perspective?