Twitter Rumour TF looking to sell up

[Kirill]

We could get a new guy come in and won't give a damn about the club.

Now you make me laugh. Why would a new guy come in if not caring and poised to do better? It is not like QPR is a cash cow that can produce a nice revenue stream while neglected and abused. The current owners have done their best and failed. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MILLIONS TO PLOUGH INTO OUR CLUB - it is done, over, finito. I said it weeks ago: the only choice they have right now is whether to save Air Asia or QPR, and that's a no brainer. So they are now clearly preparing the club for sale, get over this dude

[MYU]

Now you make me laugh. Why would a new guy come in if not caring and poised to do better? It is not like QPR is a cash cow that can produce a nice revenue stream while neglected and abused. The current owners have done their best and failed. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MILLIONS TO PLOUGH INTO OUR CLUB - it is done, over, finito. I said it weeks ago: the only choice they have right now is whether to save Air Asia or QPR, and that's a no brainer. So they are now clearly preparing the club for sale, get over this dude

They've just said they don't want to sell, if they did they there is no need to hide it. Every Chairman we've had fans have wanted them out, and the same will happen with the next.

[surrey_hoop]

Nope, it's not. There are hundreds of successful companies that have a large element of debt financing them.

So? All that means is that a company's debt is less than its assets, which isn't what I was refering to.

[surrey_hoop]

There's a surprise.



Well actually, it's not. There could be many reasons, but it would be quite boring if I were to list several examples.

I can only assume the point you were trying to make and did a bad job of, was that the majority of businesses that go bust do so because they cannot service their debts any longer. Perhaps you are not aware of the subtle differences between shareholder debt and external debt.

All people really need to know is that TF and his mates lent QPR some money. So far, it has not been spent wisely. But as they also own QPR who haven't a pot to p155 in, their chances of getting it back were slim at best. If QPR start to make money or become a saleable asset at some point, then the chances of recouping it increase slightly. See. Panic over.

I am well aware of the differences between shareholder and external debt. What happens exactly if they continue to lose money with their other business ventures (Air Asia shares have lost 2/3 of their value since TF bought us)? You think that they are going to continue to lend QPR "some money" (read: millions of pounds) that they know they will never see again, or worse still rob Peter to pay Paul? Come back to the real world brighton, it isn't so bad.

[surrey_hoop]

Very strange reaction by some on here what isn't there to like with 180 million debt be written off, I am certain some want to see us become the next Luton or Pompey just so they could brag about it.

Ridiculous comment.

[MattyRangers]

Ridiculous comment.

It's not, some on here obviously won't say it but some of the ###### they come out with backs it up. Won't be happy until it all goes t1ts up and they can give it large about saying told you so.

[surrey_hoop]

It's not, some on here obviously won't say it but some of the ###### they come out with backs it up. Won't be happy until it all goes t1ts up and they can give it large about saying told you so.

I have not read a single comment on this forum in 18 months which has even hinted that the poster would effectively want to see the club go into administration just to prove a point.

[Bill]

It's not, some on here obviously won't say it but some of the ###### they come out with backs it up. Won't be happy until it all goes t1ts up and they can give it large about saying told you so.

Nothing to do with I told you so in my case jusr concerned for the clubs future

[Kirill]

I have not read a single comment on this forum in 18 months which has even hinted that the poster would effectively want to see the club go into administration just to prove a point.

Hush now, just let the current regime lovers play with their straw man of administration, after all it is their only counter-argument nowadays

[bushcelt1]

I have not read a single comment on this forum in 18 months which has even hinted that the poster would effectively want to see the club go into administration just to prove a point.

They are hardly likely to tho are they. Some conserve their energy's just to comment on losses and the general downside but rarely make anything of an upturn. This is not just a single season moan but over a period of time...tells a story-i'm sure you understamd that point of view!! Anyway...what ever the season.

[surrey_hoop]

They are hardly likely to tho are they. Some conserve their energy's just to comment on losses and the general downside but rarely make anything of an upturn. This is not just a single season moan but over a period of time...tells a story-i'm sure you understamd that point of view!! Anyway...what ever the season.

It's a big jump from being naturally pessimistic after a match day to wanting to see the entire club end up in the toilet. As I say, until someone explicitly states it, it just strikes me as a speculative comment designed to provoke a response.

[MattyRangers]

I have not read a single comment on this forum in 18 months which has even hinted that the poster would effectively want to see the club go into administration just to prove a point.

I've seen plenty. Just because the words don't say "I want to see QPR crash and burn so I can blame Fernandes" it doesn't mean it can't be taken to mean similar. There are plenty of posters on here that, regardless of what TF does, they will bash him. Even something as outrageous as him WRITING OFF our debt, the anti TF brigade will spin it so he is the pantomime villain. Personally, am not a massive TF fan boy, nor a basher. He has made mistakes and been ever so naive in his running of our club & we have suffered for it, but we could (and will if he sells) have far far far worse.

Hush now, just let the current regime lovers play with their straw man of administration, after all it is their only counter-argument nowadays

With the greatest of respect what the fark do you know Kirill? I've never seen you contribute to a thread relating to team selection or suchlike, you don't attend games, you simply seem to post to try and antagonise and flout your anti TF message.

[MattyRangers]

They are hardly likely to tho are they. Some conserve their energy's just to comment on losses and the general downside but rarely make anything of an upturn. This is not just a single season moan but over a period of time...tells a story-i'm sure you understamd that point of view!! Anyway...what ever the season.

Exactly this.

[surrey_hoop]

I've seen plenty. Just because the words don't say "I want to see QPR crash and burn so I can blame Fernandes" it doesn't mean it can't be taken to mean similar. There are plenty of posters on here that, regardless of what TF does, they will bash him. Even something as outrageous as him WRITING OFF our debt, the anti TF brigade will spin it so he is the pantomime villain. Personally, am not a massive TF fan boy, nor a basher. He has made mistakes and been ever so naive in his running of our club & we have suffered for it, but we could (and will if he sells) have far far far worse.

OK, well I will have to take your word for that. As we all know, when you communicate with someone in a forum environment, your perception of their comment is generally influenced by your own view on the subject to begin with. As I say, bashing TF is one thing - wanting to see the club enter administration or even suffer a similar to fate to Leeds or Portsmouth is something different entirely.

[Kit]

Ridiculous comment.

Not ridiculous just my opinion and I stick by it, some people on here just criticise TF for the sake of it. Don't think any of us think he hasn't made mistakes but he/they certainly don't deserve the criticism they have been getting. And some are just waiting for the opportunity to jump on the slightest issue, whatever they do some will find a negative to it....we could have a lot lot worse !