Boro are generally 2-1 with most bookies to win the league...

[Sleeping Giants]

Whilst QPR are generally 12s....are they that much better than us given yesterday's window?

[andythefish]

Stick a tenner on us then!

[Sleeping Giants]

Stick a tenner on us then!

Done already....and some!

[Since1971]

Not in my opinion they are not but I guess we will know when we go head to head with them.

Last year Derby were clear favourites and failed to go up, the year before we were and got their by the skin of our teeth!

I may be biased (of course) but I genuinely like the look of our side now.

[klonk]

Not in my opinion they are not but I guess we will know when we go head to head with them.

Last year Derby were clear favourites and failed to go up, the year before we were and got their by the skin of our teeth!

I may be biased (of course) but I genuinely like the look of our side now.

we're 4th favourites (behind boro, hull and brighton) at the mo'... i'd say that, if anything, that's quite short odds (despite the good window, i'd still snap anyone's hand off if they offered a guaranteed 4th place finish). give it a couple of weeks and those odds will drift out to 20-ish.

this is a long, hard league, i still think a lot of teams with longer odds than us (leeds, wolves etc) have better chances of automatic promotion than we do.

[Del]

Whilst QPR are generally 12s....are they that much better than us given yesterday's window?

Only because they were the highest remaining Championship side that didn't go up last year. Bookies tend to favour such sides rather than relegated teams normally selling key players.

[Qprtanpa1]

Boro v QPR

Who's better on paper, who's better now, who's likely to be best by season's end?

[dsqpr]

One of the great things about the Championship is nobody has a frigging clue who is going to win it and that includes the bookies! The year Burnley finished second I saw a prediction that they would be 17th! Boro are strong but they lost their top scorer Bamford from last season. I don't see them as so much better than us - or any better than us for that matter.

[dsqpr]

Close call. Might come down to the manager. Karanka has been doing an outstanding job for them and fingers crossed that Ramsey can do the same for us.

[Factamondo]

Fkin boro boro boro...like the rams another choking mob...play in a half empty stadium week in week out!

[Ed the Ball]

Good, no problem with us being outsiders, more money to be won and no pressure on us!!

[QPR Richard]

we're 4th favourites (behind boro, hull and brighton) at the mo'... i'd say that, if anything, that's quite short odds (despite the good window, i'd still snap anyone's hand off if they offered a guaranteed 4th place finish). give it a couple of weeks and those odds will drift out to 20-ish.

this is a long, hard league, i still think a lot of teams with longer odds than us (leeds, wolves etc) have better chances of automatic promotion than we do.

Why do you think they have a better chance than us? Doesn't "long hard league" apply to other clubs as well? I'm backing our club to be in the mix at the end.

[West Acton]

Just had a score at 12s

[Kevin Mcleod]

we're 4th favourites (behind boro, hull and brighton) at the mo'... i'd say that, if anything, that's quite short odds (despite the good window, i'd still snap anyone's hand off if they offered a guaranteed 4th place finish). give it a couple of weeks and those odds will drift out to 20-ish.

this is a long, hard league, i still think a lot of teams with longer odds than us (leeds, wolves etc) have better chances of automatic promotion than we do.

"We love you everyone else we do, we love you everyone else we do, oh everyone else we love you."

[MattyRangers]

Good, no problem with us being outsiders, more money to be won and no pressure on us!!

Exactly this.