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  • brightonr
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 10922

    #16
    Big decision for Fernandes now.

    Choice 1, keep all the better players, let the rubbish go and go up as champions next season, even with Ramsey.

    Or the alternative, which is to allow the good ones to leave and blow any chance at all of coming back up for many years.

    Suspect he'll go for the latter, as he hasn't yet shown any signs of learning a single thing about football.

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    • Awin
      Silver Seat
      • Jun 2012
      • 2951

      #17
      I so wanted CR to succeed but...

      CRs record

      P. W. D. L
      12 2 2 8 16.66%

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      • Qprtanpa1
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2014
        • 1793

        #18
        Originally posted by Awin
        I so wanted CR to succeed but...

        CRs record

        P. W. D. L
        12 2 2 8 16.66%
        Agree with this. Plus I expected more fight from him on and off camera. Nice guy; a solid #2.

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        • Awin
          Silver Seat
          • Jun 2012
          • 2951

          #19
          Originally posted by brightonr
          Big decision for Fernandes now.

          Choice 1, keep all the better players, let the rubbish go and go up as champions next season, even with Ramsey.

          Or the alternative, which is to allow the good ones to leave and blow any chance at all of coming back up for many years.

          Suspect he'll go for the latter, as he hasn't yet shown any signs of learning a single thing about football.
          How do you reckon this team would have done in the championship this season? Mid table at best for me...

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          • Rangers77
            Platinum Seat
            • Aug 2012
            • 11808

            #20
            Originally posted by Awin
            I so wanted CR to succeed but...

            CRs record

            P. W. D. L
            12 2 2 8 16.66%
            The worst in PL history. Surely?

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            • KuPR
              Bronze Seat
              • Dec 2014
              • 521

              #21
              Originally posted by brightonr
              Big decision for Fernandes now.

              Choice 1, keep all the better players, let the rubbish go and go up as champions next season, even with Ramsey.

              Or the alternative, which is to allow the good ones to leave and blow any chance at all of coming back up for many years.

              Suspect he'll go for the latter, as he hasn't yet shown any signs of learning a single thing about football.
              The first choice may leave us with a bunch of decent but sulking first teamers, that will end up leaving for nothing when their contract runs out, when we could have got something for them if we sell them this summer.

              I get the feeling there's no easy way out of this. It's going to be painful whatever way.

              We need to build a football club from the ground up, which would be achievable, but will never happen, because if we lose a few games or more in the early stages of it, the fans will demand sackings, demand more signings etc etc

              Appoint Ramsay (or whoever can build a team for next year without a massive budget) get a squad built as quickly as possible from lower league and youngsters and anyone still here who is willing to work their #### off. Make it abundantly clear to all that it may not be the smoothest ride, but that we're committed to doing it properly. Get back to being a selling club, that brings in rough diamonds, and tries to polish them up and then sell them on, and the fans don't demand someone's head when it happens.

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #22
                Originally posted by Rangers77
                Agree with every word of that. Except the 'Ramsey had nothing to do with it'. While still s hit we were better under Redknapp. Much better. At home anyway. Ramsey must have the worst ever stats in the history of the PL.
                Get frustrations 77 but your wrong. The home form had gone under Harry with mid dec being last time we won and we lost to Sheffield Utd in that. This season we have been poor at home and even worse away

                The bush should have been our fortress but apart from what a 6week purple patch we have dropped points at home

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                • Rangers77
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 11808

                  #23
                  Originally posted by West Acton
                  Get frustrations 77 but your wrong. The home form had gone under Harry with mid dec being last time we won and we lost to Sheffield Utd in that. This season we have been poor at home and even worse away

                  The bush should have been our fortress but apart from what a 6week purple patch we have dropped points at home
                  Take the point, West. Especially from you. But it's liike asking who of Burke and Hare was the better grave robber......

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                  • Qprtanpa1
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1793

                    #24
                    Harry clearly had managed a few seasons too long, and his constant display of disinterest on the sideline was depressing. Chris Ramsey is a nice guy who's worked his way up, but like Harry he never once accepted any responsibility for bad results. Is it just a part of PL culture that no one owns up to being responsible for anything? If I'm QPR's manager, I make it clear to the team and the fans that we're going to leave it all out on the field, every minute of every game, and that just showing up isn't good enough. Burnley will likely be relegated, as predicted, by season's end, but that's a football club making up for lack of wage money with spirit and moxie. We need to be more like that.

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                    • Rangers77
                      Platinum Seat
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 11808

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Qprtanpa1
                      Harry clearly had managed a few seasons too long, and his constant display of disinterest on the sideline was depressing. Chris Ramsey is a nice guy who's worked his way up, but like Harry he never once accepted any responsibility for bad results. Is it just a part of PL culture that no one owns up to being responsible for anything? If I'm QPR's manager, I make it clear to the team and the fans that we're going to leave it all out on the field, every minute of every game, and that just showing up isn't good enough. Burnley will likely be relegated, as predicted, by season's end, but that's a football club making up for lack of wage money with spirit and moxie. We need to be more like that.
                      Great post. Says exactly what's wfkng with our club. And it's caretaker manager.

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                      • West Acton
                        CCG
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 21475

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Rangers77
                        Take the point, West. Especially from you. But it's liike asking who of Burke and Hare was the better grave robber......
                        What's done us bud was the away efforts 11 defeats on trot no points at all was unforgivable that's killed us. Even one win would have kept us lively but defeat after defeat after defeat and #####s on this site blaming luck and making excuses for the p odd poor efforts was the prob We should have outed HR after Newcastle or Swansea on away efforts alone

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                        • Brian Wilson
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 4400

                          #27
                          Id keep Ramsey on for next year unless someone with a proven record like Big Sam is available however....Redknapp might not have kept us up BUT we would have been in with a shout right down to the last day..no doubt IMHO.

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                          • RangerMick
                            Apprentice
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 68

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rangers77
                            I'd have fired him several games ago. Would never have appointed him. I might be wrong, but it's no knee jerk reaction.
                            The knee jerk reaction would be to actually offer him a new contract. How anybody can justify doing exactly that is beyond me, and I quite like him. Like I said before if Timmy or someone else had taken the job until seasons end, and we'd had exactly the same set of results and performances, along with the crazy team selections, substitutions and 'tactics', would you be clamouring for a contract extension. The answer is most probably NOT ! I have no idea what the answers are but that is certainly NOT it. Give me strength, geeze !

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                            • Northolt_Rs
                              Bronze Seat
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 961

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Qprtanpa1
                              This is the first game I've watched in two seasons where I felt totally calm, knowing we are headed to Championship. We lost again -- predictably -- because we've always found a way to do that this season. With that said, offer the following suggestions moving forward: (1) lose all of the underachievers and under-committed -- Taraabt, Caulker, Krancjar, Wright-Phillips, et alia; (2) tell Ramsey he needs to motivate the fans as well as the players, not with cliches in press conferences but with an expressed determination to do better, or demote him back to youngsters; (3) trade Charlie (he's been awesome but we'll never keep him now) and rebuild front line with speed. The good news is we have the beginnings of a solid Championship contender: McCarthy...Onouha...Dunne...Yun...Furlong...Fer... .Phillips...Barton (I hope)...Greco-Cox...Petrasso...Zamora. Bring in two strikers, two midfielders by transfer, and one wing back, and we'll compete for promotion once again.
                              Zamora? You have to be kidding...

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                              • brightonr
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 10922

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Awin
                                How do you reckon this team would have done in the championship this season? Mid table at best for me...
                                Depends really.

                                If the correct team was selected and tactics used, then we could have won it comfortably.

                                But you are right, with the two managers keep making the same mistakes over and over again, we would have fallen short of the top 6.

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