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  • Jogo
    No. 10
    • Apr 2012
    • 2192

    #31
    Green doesn't inspire confidence..think it is time to say goodbye. Not sure McCarthy is the answer though...looked equally dodgy at times in some of the games he played this season.
    Last edited by Jogo; 12-04-2015, 03:26 PM.

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    • Nick
      Gold Seat
      • Oct 2013
      • 5593

      #32
      Think over the course of the WHOLE SEASON Greens been tops and kept us in more than enough games, also we've picked up points purely down to him... BUT come next season no matter what division we're in we need to play McCarthy. Nothing to do with today but next season is all about afresh start (again), we'll have a new manager (again) and its time to have a clear out (again) and look to the future and the future is McCarthy.
      SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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      • West Acton
        CCG
        • Dec 2009
        • 21475

        #33
        Originally posted by Nick
        Think over the course of the WHOLE SEASON Greens been tops and kept us in more than enough games,
        No Nick no excuses I am afraid so please don't offer any. Keepers job in its most basic form is keep goal out of net and kick it. He was not under any pressure from the kick, not like it was a back pass, it was a b loody kick from hand. There is no excuses for what he done neither should we be making any for him its simply not good enough

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        • SammyKojoe
          Silver Seat
          • Jan 2011
          • 1451

          #34
          Well off the top of my head Green errors recently in games :

          Hull away - Hull second goal (came flying out got nowhere near the cross we lost 2-1 )
          Arsenal at home - Arsenal second goal (beaten at near post lost 2-1)
          Spurs at home - Spurs first goal (came flying out got nowhere near the ball lost 2-1)
          Chelsea at home Chelsea goal ( terrible kick which lost us game 1-0 )
          Crystal Palace away - Palace second goal ( palms a cross/shot across goal to give a tap in Lost 3-1 )

          If you want to look at in points terms that is 4 he cost us. On all those goals pretty sure tv commentators said he should have done better as well. Am sure people will debate those goals being his error but all pretty clear to me.

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          • The Merry Ploughboy
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 3233

            #35
            Originally posted by sirles9
            Green is a good shot-stopper, but he is without doubt the worst keeper in the Premier League and probably even the Championship for using his feet. He never looks comfortable. I won't criticise him, though, because he's done well for us - especially in the Championship. But I think it's time to give Alex McCarthy a chance next season
            Absolute nonsense
            From the Hills of Kerry
            To the streets of Free Derry

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            • californiahoop
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 4932

              #36
              Originally posted by Macca
              Green can go to the scum now makes a mistake every game, the same at Villa asked the wall not to jump and they score because he could not get there, made some great saves but a lot of mistakes.
              Originally posted by bakes8
              Not sure you can blame Isla for Green kicking the ball straight up in the air.
              Originally posted by Ranger-JimBob
              You're right, Isla did switch off. What an idiot for thinking his keeper could produce a simple clearing kick.
              Originally posted by Nick
              Think over the course of the WHOLE SEASON Greens been tops and kept us in more than enough games, also we've picked up points purely down to him... BUT come next season no matter what division we're in we need to play McCarthy. Nothing to do with today but next season is all about afresh start (again), we'll have a new manager (again) and its time to have a clear out (again) and look to the future and the future is McCarthy.
              Next season is a different story but for now he should stay, Hazard didn't switch off did he? You come alive when the ball is dead!
              Kept the faith!

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              • Nick
                Gold Seat
                • Oct 2013
                • 5593

                #37
                Originally posted by West Acton
                No Nick no excuses I am afraid so please don't offer any. Keepers job in its most basic form is keep goal out of net and kick it. He was not under any pressure from the kick, not like it was a back pass, it was a b loody kick from hand. There is no excuses for what he done neither should we be making any for him its simply not good enough
                Agree wests no way am I making 'any excuses'!!! I feel completely drained and extremely focked off and its all down to utter stupidity, a completely preventable mistake from Green, so please dont think Im making any excuses for him!!... All I was doing west is pointing out that over the 'whole season' hes been 1 of if not our best player, thats all!!
                SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                • The Merry Ploughboy
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3233

                  #38
                  Proper knee jerk, bad mistake, but kept us in so many games this season!!
                  From the Hills of Kerry
                  To the streets of Free Derry

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                  • 3London
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3767

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SammyKojoe
                    Well off the top of my head Green errors recently in games :

                    Hull away - Hull second goal (came flying out got nowhere near the cross we lost 2-1 )
                    Arsenal at home - Arsenal second goal (beaten at near post lost 2-1)
                    Spurs at home - Spurs first goal (came flying out got nowhere near the ball lost 2-1)
                    Chelsea at home Chelsea goal ( terrible kick which lost us game 1-0 )
                    Crystal Palace away - Palace second goal ( palms a cross/shot across goal to give a tap in Lost 3-1 )

                    If you want to look at in points terms that is 4 he cost us. On all those goals pretty sure tv commentators said he should have done better as well. Am sure people will debate those goals being his error but all pretty clear to me.
                    are you going to list every shot charlie has missed inc the penalty at hull
                    or every misplaced pass by an outfield player that let to an opposition goal ?
                    as a keeper you have no where to go when you make a mistake.

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                    • West Acton
                      CCG
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 21475

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nick
                      Agree wests no way am I making 'any excuses'!!! I feel completely drained and extremely focked off and its all down to utter stupidity, a completely preventable mistake from Green, so please dont think Im making any excuses for him!!... All I was doing west is pointing out that over the 'whole season' hes been 1 of if not our best player, thats all!!
                      Fair play Nick

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                      • West Acton
                        CCG
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 21475

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 3London
                        are you going to list every shot charlie has missed inc the penalty at hull
                        or every misplaced pass by an outfield player that let to an opposition goal ?
                        as a keeper you have no where to go when you make a mistake.
                        But he's right and there are more errors from this season

                        Have we all forgotten he miss kicked at Everton too that resulted in them scoring at theirs!!!!! these are not one offs when it comes to Green their is a clanger from him every match of some sorts

                        I put stat up on another thread he has made more errors that lead to goals then any other keeper in the league what do you say to that???

                        If you asked 100 football fans what their views of Green are I would hazard a guess a good 90% would say makes errors that is what he is known for

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                        • Hove Ranger
                          Silver Seat
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4441

                          #42
                          Greens kicking out of his hands has always been suspect. He normally looks to drop it and kick it but Drogba kept staying with him to make him kick it. He made at least 3 mistakes with kicks today putting us under unnecessary pressure. Its pretty shocking to be honest, in modern football kicking is a massive part of a goalkeepers game and Green really struggles with this. I won't knock his shot stopping and general saving ability as he has been important for us in that regards.

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                          • Kevin Mcleod
                            Referee
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 17322

                            #43
                            Think its safe to say that moody kick out has also kicked the player of the season trophy into charlies arms as well.

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                            • The Merry Ploughboy
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3233

                              #44
                              Agree Kev, was between the two, with Charles grabbing it now !!!
                              From the Hills of Kerry
                              To the streets of Free Derry

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                              • QPRWEBBIE
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 3172

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bakes8
                                Not sure you can blame Isla for Green kicking the ball straight up in the air.
                                What don't you understand ?? Watch it back again, Green kicks it up in the air but it doesn't come straight back at him, it goes out to the byline and Isla totally switches of and leaves Hazard to take a pass fro Oscar. Bad kick - Yes, poor defending that led to the goal - Yes

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