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  • Norths
    CCG
    • Jan 2011
    • 13067

    #61
    Personally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.

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    • MYU
      Administrator
      • Mar 2009
      • 43466

      #62
      Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
      Totally uninspiring 3 if true.
      I was thinking the same thing... there are football players outside of Spurs which should be looked at as well.

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      • Geng
        Silver Seat
        • Jul 2009
        • 1449

        #63
        Originally posted by surrey_hoop
        Although I agree that there is potential where Carroll is concerned, I think that his shortcomings right now are too noticeable for a permanent deal - another loan I'd be happy with. The thing with Carroll is, he doesn't score or assist in anywhere near enough goals to be considered an attacking midfielder or a playmaker, and he isn't tenacious and mobile enough to be considered a water carrier. If we do look into bringing him back permanently, HR really needs to have a good think about what role he sees Carroll having with us.
        that's because he is neither. he works best as the '2nd' of a midfield three, alongside a destroyer and a more creative/direct/attacking player further up the pitch

        you're right though. if barton is to be the water carrier / hollywood hoofer, we'll need a more mobile and athletic person alongside him than LTC.

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        • Factamondo
          You know when you've been factamondoed!
          • Mar 2009
          • 37198

          #64
          some of us really are in cloud cuckoo land if you think major stars will come here.....mr mukhtar khan from the corner shops has pies less past their sell by date than some of the antiques we've been linked with!
          you know nothing john snow!!!!

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          • Qprnw10
            Bronze Seat
            • Apr 2012
            • 395

            #65
            Originally posted by Norths
            Personally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.
            Fair enough comment.I agree 100% that this is his make or break season.

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            • West Acton
              CCG
              • Dec 2009
              • 21475

              #66
              Originally posted by Qprnw10
              Toure bullies most midfielders, and I doubt he'd get bullied by ramires. The championship is alot more physical than the premier league and he will probably be more suited to the premier lge rather than the championship.Tom Carroll over the next two/three yrs will bulk up naturally and get stronger, players like Carrick, Modric, Ramires and Fletcher were all physically similar to ltc when they were in their early twenties and look at them now.Lets not make the same mistake we keep making as a nation and let a players size be a factor in whether he's any good.
              Could not disagree with you more. He's not up to prem standard he was not even championship standard.

              Ramires modric etc have not bulked up their still slight players. Ramires would run rings round Carroll too and make him look like a kid. If he could pass the ball forwards you might have a small point on investing some time on him but he can't. Would rather invest the effort in samba who if we could sort him out could be like a new signing then bring in Someone just because they tick the young player box

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #67
                Originally posted by Norths
                Personally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.
                Exactly he's not a kid anymore he's a young man still trying to break into a team players younger then him have been tearing it up at this WC now that's potential. At what point does potential turn into he's not going to make it???

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                • Rich
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3412

                  #68
                  Carroll is a poor mans Faurlin.

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                  • Qprnw10
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 395

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Geng
                    that's because he is neither. he works best as the '2nd' of a midfield three, alongside a destroyer and a more creative/direct/attacking player further up the pitch

                    you're right though. if barton is to be the water carrier / hollywood hoofer, we'll need a more mobile and athletic person alongside him than LTC.
                    I think we should go 433 this season.I'd be happy with a midfield of Barton, Carroll and Taarabt

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                    • stainrodisalegend
                      Platinum Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 13624

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Rich
                      Carroll is a poor mans Faurlin.
                      Agree.

                      As for Mr Mucktar's pies, bet they are still fresher than some of the ladies Facto sniffs after at one of his exclusive south Essex nite spots...

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                      • Shania
                        C Club
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 23696

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Rich
                        Carroll is a poor mans Faurlin.
                        Carroll is a poor mans Mats Møller Dæhli.
                        QPR
                        Best team in the world
                        Sort of

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                        • Factamondo
                          You know when you've been factamondoed!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 37198

                          #72
                          Originally posted by stainrodisalegend
                          Agree.

                          As for Mr Mucktar's pies, bet they are still fresher than some of the ladies Facto sniffs after at one of his exclusive south Essex nite spots...
                          your continual slanderous accusations of my infedelity and frequenting of establishments of ill repute n debachary along the essex riviera have no foundation or truth.....my lawyer has been informed fothwith!
                          you know nothing john snow!!!!

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                          • Factamondo
                            You know when you've been factamondoed!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37198

                            #73
                            faurlin is finished....its a sympathy contract!
                            you know nothing john snow!!!!

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                            • Rangers77
                              Platinum Seat
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 11808

                              #74
                              Carroll is a poor man's Brian Williams.

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                              • qblockoompah
                                Silver Seat
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 3587

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Qprnw10
                                I think we should go 433 this season.I'd be happy with a midfield of Barton, Carroll and Taarabt
                                Would get ripped apart with that midfield, if you're playing 3 in midfield, at least 2 need to be battlers

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