Personally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.
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that's because he is neither. he works best as the '2nd' of a midfield three, alongside a destroyer and a more creative/direct/attacking player further up the pitchOriginally posted by surrey_hoop View PostAlthough I agree that there is potential where Carroll is concerned, I think that his shortcomings right now are too noticeable for a permanent deal - another loan I'd be happy with. The thing with Carroll is, he doesn't score or assist in anywhere near enough goals to be considered an attacking midfielder or a playmaker, and he isn't tenacious and mobile enough to be considered a water carrier. If we do look into bringing him back permanently, HR really needs to have a good think about what role he sees Carroll having with us.
you're right though. if barton is to be the water carrier / hollywood hoofer, we'll need a more mobile and athletic person alongside him than LTC.
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Fair enough comment.I agree 100% that this is his make or break season.Originally posted by Norths View PostPersonally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.
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Could not disagree with you more. He's not up to prem standard he was not even championship standard.Originally posted by Qprnw10 View PostToure bullies most midfielders, and I doubt he'd get bullied by ramires. The championship is alot more physical than the premier league and he will probably be more suited to the premier lge rather than the championship.Tom Carroll over the next two/three yrs will bulk up naturally and get stronger, players like Carrick, Modric, Ramires and Fletcher were all physically similar to ltc when they were in their early twenties and look at them now.Lets not make the same mistake we keep making as a nation and let a players size be a factor in whether he's any good.
Ramires modric etc have not bulked up their still slight players. Ramires would run rings round Carroll too and make him look like a kid. If he could pass the ball forwards you might have a small point on investing some time on him but he can't. Would rather invest the effort in samba who if we could sort him out could be like a new signing then bring in Someone just because they tick the young player box
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Exactly he's not a kid anymore he's a young man still trying to break into a team players younger then him have been tearing it up at this WC now that's potential. At what point does potential turn into he's not going to make it???Originally posted by Norths View PostPersonally dont think its anything to do with his size, he just isn't that good. Doesn't compare ability wise or come even close to any of those you mentioned. And at 22 years of age it really is a make or break season for him.
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I think we should go 433 this season.I'd be happy with a midfield of Barton, Carroll and TaarabtOriginally posted by Geng View Postthat's because he is neither. he works best as the '2nd' of a midfield three, alongside a destroyer and a more creative/direct/attacking player further up the pitch
you're right though. if barton is to be the water carrier / hollywood hoofer, we'll need a more mobile and athletic person alongside him than LTC.
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your continual slanderous accusations of my infedelity and frequenting of establishments of ill repute n debachary along the essex riviera have no foundation or truth.....my lawyer has been informed fothwith!Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View PostAgree.
As for Mr Mucktar's pies, bet they are still fresher than some of the ladies Facto sniffs after at one of his exclusive south Essex nite spots...you know nothing john snow!!!!
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