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  • brightonr
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 10922

    #91
    Originally posted by Del
    It's about revenue a club makes, it doesn't specify how. Gate receipts form part of that. Then it's not as simple as looking at capacity because clubs having different pricing policies also, hence Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea probably don't make huge amounts less than Man Utd on gate receipts because their average ST prices are much higher.
    There must be certain limitations as to where the revenue comes from though Del. Otherwise, Air Asia could pay us whatever they felt like, instead of QPR paying the fine.

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    • Shania
      C Club
      • Apr 2010
      • 23696

      #92
      A bit off topic, but I read in the Daily Mail that Tottenham is interested one of Swansea“s other defenders. Cant see them wanting to offload two.
      Have to say I hope that Tottenham have other irons in the fire..
      QPR
      Best team in the world
      Sort of

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      • Del
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 8393

        #93
        Originally posted by brightonr
        There must be certain limitations as to where the revenue comes from though Del. Otherwise, Air Asia could pay us whatever they felt like, instead of QPR paying the fine.
        That's the problem as I see it, the big spenders will use loopholes and just push up parent company sponsorship, but I think the authorities are trying to restrict this, otherwise what stops Tony putting Air Asia, or Mittal putting Mittal on the main stand and as far as the books are concerned, paying £100m for the privilege? There are clubs that wont care and just pay their fines... With the likes of Man City and PSG, what's a fine to them even if it runs into the tens of millions?

        As for us, when in the prem the gate money is pittance compared to other revenue streams coming into the club, mainly from TV, but also sponsorship.

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        • maidstone_hoop
          Gold Seat
          • May 2009
          • 6718

          #94


          Getting interesting now.

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          • QPRDave
            The number 10
            • Mar 2009
            • 32079

            #95
            Yeah but does he want to play for the frosties..[B].They're not GRRRREAT!!!!![/B]

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            • Del
              Gold Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 8393

              #96
              Why would he want to go to Hull.....?? I think with Europa distractions and 2nd season syndrome they will quite probably go down.

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              • Hitman34
                Platinum Seat
                • Jan 2012
                • 13959

                #97
                Originally posted by QPRDave
                Yeah but does he want to play for the frosties..[B].They're not GRRRREAT!!!!![/B]

                nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                • Chunkyfenwick
                  Bronze Seat
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 434

                  #98
                  As already mentioned, Ashley Williams will probably get offered a new improved contract from Swansea.
                  Supposed interest from other clubs will get him that new improved contract and also why would they want to lose their skipper.

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                  • maidstone_hoop
                    Gold Seat
                    • May 2009
                    • 6718

                    #99
                    Just seen on sky ssn that swansea planning to offer a new deal so unless we gazump their offer to williams with silly money again prob be staying there.

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                    • Yousef
                      Gold Seat
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 9553

                      #100
                      Originally posted by maidstone_hoop
                      Just seen on sky ssn that swansea planning to offer a new deal so unless we gazump their offer to williams with silly money again prob be staying there.
                      I am sure Harry has plan B just like when he got Charlie Austin after failing to buy Gary Hooper last season.
                      QPR fan since1987

                      @yousef_qpr

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                      • dpmd
                        Silver Seat
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2251

                        #101
                        Again another long drawn out transfer saga by us. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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                        • Bluehoop
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 9258

                          #102
                          Originally posted by dpmd
                          Again another long drawn out transfer saga by us. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
                          Really?
                          Apart from the fact that the Club have never officially stated an interest in the player - all the speculation is media driven - its only about 2.5 weeks since we knew which division we would be playing in next year so even if there was genuine interest, to suggest it is a long drawn out saga is mindbogglingly overstated
                          #standuptocancer
                          #inyourfacecancer

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                          • Mattyqpr
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3576

                            #103
                            Ashley's agent been releasing stories in order to get an improved contract offer from Swansea, simple as that.

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                            • Brightsparx
                              Silver Seat
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1109

                              #104
                              As I said a few pages back smelt like a agent story from no where. People get to excited fact is agents will always use us as they know we have doe

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                              • klonk
                                Silver Seat
                                • May 2011
                                • 2401

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Del
                                That's the problem as I see it, the big spenders will use loopholes and just push up parent company sponsorship, but I think the authorities are trying to restrict this, otherwise what stops Tony putting Air Asia, or Mittal putting Mittal on the main stand and as far as the books are concerned, paying £100m for the privilege? There are clubs that wont care and just pay their fines... With the likes of Man City and PSG, what's a fine to them even if it runs into the tens of millions?

                                As for us, when in the prem the gate money is pittance compared to other revenue streams coming into the club, mainly from TV, but also sponsorship.
                                There are controls over what are called 'related party transactions' (where a company not so distant from the owners pay silly money for very little). Looking at the champions league ffp, it seems that the controls aren't particularly well applied especially if you're psg.

                                Some of the stuff about high wages ignores the point that a lot of the high earners were available on free transfers.

                                Take Green for example... We signed him up for 2 years at £50k per week, which is expensive apparently. If we'd bought him for £4m and paid him £10k a week, everyone would say that that was an amazing bargain. But... The point is, in both cases, the Green costs us exactly the same amount both in cash over the 2 years and in the accounts for each year.

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