Whats in a name

[twranger]

the fa and football league should be protecting the heritage of the clubs, their names and colours and "history" , it proves the "fit and proper" test is pathetic.
who is an owner? a short term over seer, the club stays, the town/city stays the rest is what's written.
imagine the uproar if real madrid were called madrid city and made to play in red/blue!!
that hull owner is power mad. and cardiff in red, grrrrrr

totally agree....... whilst on kit changes....the Southampton kit...what's all that about? Seems to be permanent change to all red. red white stripes black shorts seems to have gone!!! Shame.

[jmelanie]

Wouldn't mind just being called QPR.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

We couldn't be just called QPR.
How many times in the future would QPR fans be asked, 'errr, what do the letters Q.P.R. stand for?'
And how many times would QPR fans have to say, 'well, they stand for Queen's Park Rangers.'
We've been Queen's Park Rangers (QPR) since 1882, and I hope it's the case in 2082 when the QPR fans of the future celebrate our Bi-centenary.

[QPR Richard]

I used to live in Queens Park and played in the park as a kid. The area is part of my DNA and so is the club. Nothing other than Queens Park Rangers or QPR is acceptable to me.

[stan_bowles]

Times have changed but most football fans live in the past.Cricket has moved on with name changes for one day a T20 sides without all this fuss.Football fans seem to think they have a right to live in the past when the rest of the world is in the 21st century.

Get over it.

Football is not a sport anymore it's a multi billion pound business and owners will do what they think is best to market their product,and it is a product.

[Jogo]

Times have changed but most football fans live in the past.Cricket has moved on with name changes for one day a T20 sides without all this fuss.Football fans seem to think they have a right to live in the past when the rest of the world is in the 21st century.

Get over it.

Football is not a sport anymore it's a multi billion pound business and owners will do what they think is best to market their product,and it is a product.

Very sad.

[qblockoompah]

Times have changed but most football fans live in the past.Cricket has moved on with name changes for one day a T20 sides without all this fuss.Football fans seem to think they have a right to live in the past when the rest of the world is in the 21st century.

Get over it.



Football is not a sport anymore it's a multi billion pound business and owners will do what they think is best to market their product,and it is a product.

Don't see what benefit we could ever have by changing names? Disrespectful to the history of the club IMO

[brightonr]

Can hear it now. Next season, in the paradise that is Hull.





















"You're just a town full of Tigers".

Grrrrrrreeeeeeaaaaattttt

[stan_bowles]

Don't see what benefit we could ever have by changing names? Disrespectful to the history of the club IMO

Companies rebrand and reinvent themselves all the time and football clubs are companies these days.

Might not be right for most fans but it's the way it is.

And many of these new owners are bankrolling clubs that would be doing a Portsmouth or Rangers or similar.

Some here have short memories and whinge about Flavio changing the badge for example,but without him we may not even have a club now.

Fans want success and big signings etc.,but then moan if an owner wants to make changes.Can't have it all your own way.

[QPR Richard]

Companies rebrand and reinvent themselves all the time and football clubs are companies these days.

Might not be right for most fans but it's the way it is.

And many of these new owners are bankrolling clubs that would be doing a Portsmouth or Rangers or similar.

Some here have short memories and whinge about Flavio changing the badge for example,but without him we may not even have a club now.

Fans want success and big signings etc.,but then moan if an owner wants to make changes.Can't have it all your own way.

So you'd find it acceptable if we were called QPR one season, London Rangers the next, then the London Soccer All-Stars after that, if it's about marketing? Perhaps you think it's ok if we change our kit every now and then, from hoops to plain red and then to pink?

Where would our identity and 'brand recognition' be then?

[stan_bowles]

So you'd find it acceptable if we were called QPR one season, London Rangers the next, then the London Soccer All-Stars after that, if it's about marketing? Perhaps you think it's ok if we change our kit every now and then, from hoops to plain red and then to pink?

Where would our identity and 'brand recognition' be then?

Have not said i agree with it at all,but unfortunately these new owners are not old school football fans,they are ruthless businessmen.

It's a case of struggling in the lower leagues with minimal money or having to put up with the new owners pumping millions into the club and making the changes they want like Hull and Cardiff have.

Unfortunately that is the way football is going and will only get worse if you want to succeed at the top level.

Manure fans protested about the Glazers for years with the old colour scarfs etc.,but they still get a full house every week and owners know fans will always turn up every week,no matter how farked off they feel about the owners and the changes they make.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Times have changed but most football fans live in the past.Cricket has moved on with name changes for one day a T20 sides without all this fuss.Football fans seem to think they have a right to live in the past when the rest of the world is in the 21st century.

Get over it.

Football is not a sport anymore it's a multi billion pound business and owners will do what they think is best to market their product,and it is a product.

Then football as a spectator sport, dependent on the partisan/tribal nature of club football, will die, eventually.
I don't, and won't ever, support something that is nothing more than a business commodity, and I greatly suspect that I won't be in any sort of a minority.
The first owner of a football club, that treats that club like it was his personal fiefdom, will kill that club. Fans might, just might, grudgingly accept minor changes, but they will never accept wholesale changes that alter almost entirely their club's history and identity.

[jmelanie]

Not totally on subject, but the new football team in Miami is going to be called Miami Beckham United.

[NW_Hoopz]

So you'd find it acceptable if we were called QPR one season, London Rangers the next, then the London Soccer All-Stars after that, if it's about marketing? Perhaps you think it's ok if we change our kit every now and then, from hoops to plain red and then to pink?

Where would our identity and 'brand recognition' be then?

Without going around & around in circles all over again Richard, that's exactly how passionately 'the gang of four' feel about the prospect of playing in a half empty stadium.

The FA will be a complete farce of an organisation if they let that gobsh1te get away with changing Hull's name.

[Factamondo]

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