Samba

[Jeems]

So, back to Samba...

Great win by the Samba boys!

[Felt]

This is the thing. Despite any evidence which would confirm that HR wanted Samba, Vblock STILL insists he was signed at the behest of TF and not HR. Even though there is overwhelming evidence to suggest that TF gives managers money to spend on players of their choosing, Vblock will not accept this and thinks TF is selecting players for the squad.

And to cap it all, he says these things without a shred of evidence to support his opinions. It's just blind hatred of TF. What else could it be?

Come on Vblock, give us some evidence-based opinions for once, instead of shooting from the hip.

The evidence for me is that we were linked to Samba for a long time (way before Redknapp came in). I'm not saying Redknapp didn't want Samba, but I feel as with many of our signings, TF brought him to the manager rather than the other way around.

[QPRDave]

Thats the one mate. guess i will only be able to afford a season ticket in the fourth tier. just about where that cross is. better put in an order for a telescope. now where did i leave that nasa phone number.

...they ring the bells when we score ....replacing pigbag

[Westbyfleetr]

My money is that Samba does his ACL in the pre-season at Exeter.

[Hitman34]

...they ring the bells when we score ....replacing pigbag

We need an official bell ringer then. all dressed up in vicar garb.

[SammyKojoe]

This is another one of those threads that should be kept and looked at a few games into the season. The people hammering Samba now will soon be singing his praises as quickly if he has a few good games early next season.

[vblockranger]

This is another one of those threads that should be kept and looked at a few games into the season. The people hammering Samba now will soon be singing his praises as quickly if he has a few good games early next season.

Certainly Championship level so should have a good season if he stays...just not a £12 million Premiership defender in my opinion, not even close. If the opportunity arises and we have a chance of getting our money back then we should sell and use the money to bring in 2 or 3 players equally as good if not better than Samba. Thats all im saying and its pretty obvious really. The only trouble is who is dumb enough to pay £12 million for him and match his wages? Reckon theres another pair of plums out there like Fernandes and Beard? :-)

[QPR Richard]

Certainly Championship level so should have a good season if he stays...just not a £12 million Premiership defender in my opinion, not even close. If the opportunity arises and we have a chance of getting our money back then we should sell and use the money to bring in 2 or 3 players equally as good if not better than Samba. Thats all im saying and its pretty obvious really. The only trouble is who is dumb enough to pay £12 million for him and match his wages? Reckon theres another pair of plums out there like Fernandes and Beard? :-)

Don't you ever get tired of slagging off the chairman or has your obsession with him become something more sinister?

Fernandes has made a tidy sum of money in his career and is co-owner of our club. How much have you made and are you a co-owner?

Your rants against TF are getting boring. Change the record will you?

[QPR Richard]

The evidence for me is that we were linked to Samba for a long time (way before Redknapp came in). I'm not saying Redknapp didn't want Samba, but I feel as with many of our signings, TF brought him to the manager rather than the other way around.

Any evidence to back your feelings that TF brought Samba to HR? If anything, it seems logical that we were in talks with Samba some time ago with his agent and those talks resumed prior to us signing him.

We know about TF putting forward Park to Hughes, and Hughes was very much in favour, but what other players do you think TF 'persuaded' our managers to sign?

[brightonr]

I think we can all agree that since TF has been around, the on field performances have in the main, been pretty pathetic, to put it mildly. I have no doubt he has made many more mistakes than we would have thought or hoped would be the case. Taking that into account, I can see why some are not his biggest fans.

However. Perhaps we should think back to who last invested so much of their own money, at their risk, into developing a new training complex that will reap dividends in the future. And who last backed successive managers with the players that they wanted, at enormous cost. And who last spent time making plans to find and build us a new home that we will all no doubt be very proud of, once it is finally built. Struggling with that, to be fair.

As for him wasting our money, we really ought to show a bit more respect for someone that has invested millions of pounds in the future of our club. Doubt very much whether the annual income from mine and everyone else's season tickets even come close to matching what he has risked, let alone his reputation. He has always maintained he is here for the long term. To build something that he and his co-owners, along with our fans, can be enormously proud of. As far as I am aware, any debt the club have is to the owners. So if the club cannot afford to repay it, who is losing out?

Not TF's fault that he has been disgracefully let down by consecutive managers, despite backing them and supporting them to the hilt. I for one am grateful that we have him and his partners. And I think the least we can do is give our utmost backing and support to someone who so obviously cares about our future.

All clubs have bad seasons and we have had two of the worst I can remember in 42 years of going. But I think that very few clubs can begin to hope of the future we may be about to get, once things have been turned around.

[dogsrrs]

I'm not saying TF forced any signing but for me Felt hit the nail in his post that TF brought a player to Hughs attention he also asked Warnock if he would like him (TF) to go for Scot Parker ,I can not see any harm in a chairman asking a manager should we go for this or that player as long as it stays there

[QPR Richard]

I'm not saying TF forced any signing but for me Felt hit the nail in his post that TF brought a player to Hughs attention he also asked Warnock if he would like him (TF) to go for Scot Parker ,I can not see any harm in a chairman asking a manager should we go for this or that player as long as it stays there

I agree there is no harm in a chairman suggesting a player, but the impression I got was that Felt believes TF is influencing team purchases. Apologies if I'm wrong.

[Hitman34]

I agree there is no harm in a chairman suggesting a player, but the impression I got was that Felt believes TF is influencing team purchases. Apologies if I'm wrong.

for a chairman to be bringing up names surley it is influencing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dogsrrs]

for a chairman to be bringing up names surley it is influencing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to a strong manager it's showing an interest

[QPRDave]

We need an official bell ringer then. all dressed up in vicar garb.

No need mate ...apparently Ian Dowie's volunteered!!!.......the bells!!