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  • TRING-RANGER
    Silver Seat
    • Feb 2012
    • 1849

    #61
    Originally posted by lymehoop
    The Pavilion are wetting themselves with the thought of that extra trade :pleasantsuprise:
    Also kick Tescos out and reopen the NorthPole even better

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    • lymehoop
      Gold Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 7380

      #62
      Originally posted by TRING-RANGER
      Also kick Tescos out and reopen the NorthPole even better
      did Tesco get the North Pole
      I must away now, I can no longer tarry
      This morning's tempest I have to cross
      I must be guided without a stumble
      Into the arms I love the most

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      • brightonr
        Banned
        • Mar 2009
        • 10922

        #63
        Originally posted by QPRDave
        Guten abend fraulein Helga!!!!.....
        Kirill won't appreciate you posting up pictures of him Dave.

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        • lymehoop
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 7380

          #64
          Originally posted by brightonr
          Kirill won't appreciate you posting up pictures of him Dave.
          that's Ambition, no wonder no one bothered him when he was drinking in Rangers territory
          I must away now, I can no longer tarry
          This morning's tempest I have to cross
          I must be guided without a stumble
          Into the arms I love the most

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          • TRING-RANGER
            Silver Seat
            • Feb 2012
            • 1849

            #65
            Originally posted by lymehoop
            did Tesco get the North Pole
            Yep fraid so............:rage:

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            • TBLOCKRANGER
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2011
              • 2909

              #66
              I don't understand the O2 comparison, from my understanding the government paid the build and all other associated costs. They were desperate to get rid of it, AEG took a white elephant (albeit an iconic structure) off their hands. AEG had massive previous entertainment experience from the USA.
              Us on the other hand are a rather small football club that's just about to get relegated with debts of approx £100m and owned by a bloke who made his money in the airline industry.
              We will have to build our complex from scratch with little if any government help, taking into consideration the sale of LR, our debts before a ball is kicked in our new stadium is going to be approx £250m at the least. Ok if your real or utd who can absorb such debts but not a club whose fanbase number 15k.
              For all those who say TF knows what he's doing or he has the best people around him. This might be the case but he had so called expert advisers when he signed MH and got his agent closely involved in transfers, he also sanctioned the purchase of Bosingwa and AJ. He said he made mistakes, what is about to be embarked on unless properly advised could be a disaster.
              Wasn't it Amit who said we should take things slowly.

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              • blueboy
                Bronze Seat
                • May 2011
                • 506

                #67
                Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER
                I don't understand the O2 comparison, from my understanding the government paid the build and all other associated costs. They were desperate to get rid of it, AEG took a white elephant (albeit an iconic structure) off their hands. AEG had massive previous entertainment experience from the USA.
                Us on the other hand are a rather small football club that's just about to get relegated with debts of approx £100m and owned by a bloke who made his money in the airline industry.
                We will have to build our complex from scratch with little if any government help, taking into consideration the sale of LR, our debts before a ball is kicked in our new stadium is going to be approx £250m at the least. Ok if your real or utd who can absorb such debts but not a club whose fanbase number 15k.
                For all those who say TF knows what he's doing or he has the best people around him. This might be the case but he had so called expert advisers when he signed MH and got his agent closely involved in transfers, he also sanctioned the purchase of Bosingwa and AJ. He said he made mistakes, what is about to be embarked on unless properly advised could be a disaster.
                Wasn't it Amit who said we should take things slowly.
                the comparison with the O2,is the amount of money it makes a year($121 million in 2010)we will have to build it,hopefully with money from investors who see an indoor stadium/entertainment complex as a good investment opportunity.QPR,and football,will be just a part of it.The debts we have at the moment,are partly owed to other investors in the club.This is all going to take quite a few years.It will,hopefully,be part of a large redevlopment area that will have large amounts of government cash invested in it.

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                • superhoop67
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3782

                  #68
                  Originally posted by blueboy
                  the comparison with the O2,is the amount of money it makes a year($121 million in 2010)we will have to build it,hopefully with money from investors who see an indoor stadium/entertainment complex as a good investment opportunity.QPR,and football,will be just a part of it.The debts we have at the moment,are partly owed to other investors in the club.This is all going to take quite a few years.It will,hopefully,be part of a large redevlopment area that will have large amounts of government cash invested in it.
                  3 miles from Wembley 1 mile from Westfields it will be crowded ,plenty of chioce mind.
                  Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                  • blueboy
                    Bronze Seat
                    • May 2011
                    • 506

                    #69
                    Originally posted by superhoop67
                    3 miles from Wembley 1 mile from Westfields it will be crowded ,plenty of chioce mind.
                    i'm not sure i get you.3 miles from Wembley?are you referring to Wembley Arena?1 mile from Westfield?we are not talking about a large shopping centre being built

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                    • TBLOCKRANGER
                      Silver Seat
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2909

                      #70
                      Originally posted by blueboy
                      the comparison with the O2,is the amount of money it makes a year($121 million in 2010)we will have to build it,hopefully with money from investors who see an indoor stadium/entertainment complex as a good investment opportunity.QPR,and football,will be just a part of it.The debts we have at the moment,are partly owed to other investors in the club.This is all going to take quite a few years.It will,hopefully,be part of a large redevlopment area that will have large amounts of government cash invested in it.
                      The absurdity of what we are planning to embark on is why I love this club of 15k supporters. Most clubs just get relegated, we in turn always have to take it a step further by spending a fortune in January for the sole purpose of staying up, we continue to be rubbish and accrue debts of 100m. However it's all going to be ok because we are going to get a retractable roof and unlike any other club in the history of English football we are going to become the new Donald Trump and become self financing.

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                      • blueboy
                        Bronze Seat
                        • May 2011
                        • 506

                        #71
                        Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER
                        The absurdity of what we are planning to embark on is why I love this club of 15k supporters. Most clubs just get relegated, we in turn always have to take it a step further by spending a fortune in January for the sole purpose of staying up, we continue to be rubbish and accrue debts of 100m. However it's all going to be ok because we are going to get a retractable roof and unlike any other club in the history of English football we are going to become the new Donald Trump and become self financing.
                        i dont think any of us are sure its all going to be ok,nobody can predict the future.The debts,(part of it anyway)is owed to investors in the club.We need a new stadium,the club have worked out the best way to finance it is to turn it into something that might just attract new investors,or convince the current shareholders to invest more money
                        this has got to be better than building a stand alone stadium

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                        • QPRDave
                          The number 10
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 32060

                          #72
                          Originally posted by brightonr
                          Kirill won't appreciate you posting up pictures of him Dave.

                          oh..........I've crossed the line again haven't I!!!!

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                          • QPR71
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3055

                            #73
                            Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER
                            I don't understand the O2 comparison, from my understanding the government paid the build and all other associated costs. They were desperate to get rid of it, AEG took a white elephant (albeit an iconic structure) off their hands. AEG had massive previous entertainment experience from the USA.
                            Us on the other hand are a rather small football club that's just about to get relegated with debts of approx £100m and owned by a bloke who made his money in the airline industry.
                            We will have to build our complex from scratch with little if any government help, taking into consideration the sale of LR, our debts before a ball is kicked in our new stadium is going to be approx £250m at the least. Ok if your real or utd who can absorb such debts but not a club whose fanbase number 15k.
                            For all those who say TF knows what he's doing or he has the best people around him. This might be the case but he had so called expert advisers when he signed MH and got his agent closely involved in transfers, he also sanctioned the purchase of Bosingwa and AJ. He said he made mistakes, what is about to be embarked on unless properly advised could be a disaster.
                            Wasn't it Amit who said we should take things slowly.
                            the board owe the debt to themselves. we are owned by a bloke who made his money from a steel conglomerate and another who made his money from shipping and ports. Then there is TF
                            and KM who own tune group which is more than just an airline. Global entertainment including ownership of the venues is part of TF and KM's plan. I think they own an arena or two already

                            "Tune Group Sdn Bhd is a leisure and entertainment corporation founded by Malaysian entrepreneurs Tony Fernandes and Kamarudin Meranun.[1] Its subsidiaries include low-cost airline Air Asia, the Formula One team Lotus Racing[2] and the Premier League club QPR" (QPR are not part of tune group in fact because ruben and the mittals are shareholders. although finance, telecoms and hotels are within the group). Add to this PB's arena and entertainment experience

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                            • Del
                              Gold Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8393

                              #74
                              If they hurry it up, maybe we can get Rihanna to play in defence as part of the deal..... gotta be quicker than Hill, and certainly have better ball control than Onouha..

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                              • superhoop67
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3782

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Del
                                If they hurry it up, maybe we can get Rihanna to play in defence as part of the deal..... gotta be quicker than Hill, and certainly have better ball control than Onouha..
                                but has she got a sweet right foot like Onouha
                                Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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