Europe. In or out?

[gaza09]

Gove supports QPR. Other than that he is repulsive. If you have kids at school ask their teachers. He Put all I have worked for as a teacher back 29 years. Arrogant man. Wrong man,
. Vote in to safeguard our children's future .

Yeah let's safeguard our children's future by voting to remain in a political union that forces us to open our borders to anyone with an EU passport. Which results in pressure on school places, How many kids didn't get into their first or second choice schools or any place at a school for that matter?

We need to vote to leave to safeguard our children's future, take back control of our immigration policy so we can set the numbers who are allowed in which will afford us the ability to plan how many school places are need in the future.

As for Gove I stand by what I said in this thread a few weeks ago his the most intelligent pollitican this country has to offer.

[wortonranger]

Yeah let's safeguard our children's future by voting to remain in a political union that forces us to open our borders to anyone with an EU passport. Which results in pressure on school places, How many kids didn't get into their first or second choice schools or any place at a school for that matter?

We need to vote to leave to safeguard our children's future, take back control of our immigration policy so we can set the numbers who are allowed in which will afford us the ability to plan how many school places are need in the future.

As for Gove I stand by what I said in this thread a few weeks ago his the most intelligent pollitican this country has to offer.

And I stand by my point. The man has blighted my life for years. Certainly he is intelligent ( he supports the R,'s) but he is arrogant and self seeking. I see the opportunities and positives for the future by embracing Europe and understanding our globalised inter- connected world. If your children have a mortgage, if they have investments, the uncertainty of a Brexit could be catastrophic. The legions of intelligent and informed economists who have given their view should not be ignored. The reason for high migration levels is our success. This is partly due to our membership of the EU. That's why they come . Leave and the jobs will go. For our kids as well. Please see sense on this.

[jmelanie]

And I stand by my point. The man has blighted my life for years. Certainly he is intelligent ( he supports the R,'s) but he is arrogant and self seeking. I see the opportunities and positives for the future by embracing Europe and understanding our globalised inter- connected world. If your children have a mortgage, if they have investments, the uncertainty of a Brexit could be catastrophic. The legions of intelligent and informed economists who have given their view should not be ignored. The reason for high migration levels is our success. This is partly due to our membership of the EU. That's why they come . Leave and the jobs will go. For our kids as well. Please see sense on this.

I don't think our membership of the EU is the reason for high migration levels but despite it. If so why don't they want to go to other countries? Why do they stay in Calais trying to get to the U.K. rather than staying in France, who have been in the EU longer than us. are in the Euro and have agreed to most of the reforms. Why are investments at risk if we leave. We have investments and the majority of them are in British or U.S. companies. We have very few investments in European companies. Most people who have mortgages have them with British banks or building societies (except perhaps Santander which bought up the best parts of a number of British building societies with the help of money from the Spanish government.)

[Stanley]

And I stand by my point. The man has blighted my life for years. Certainly he is intelligent ( he supports the R,'s) but he is arrogant and self seeking. I see the opportunities and positives for the future by embracing Europe and understanding our globalised inter- connected world. If your children have a mortgage, if they have investments, the uncertainty of a Brexit could be catastrophic. The legions of intelligent and informed economists who have given their view should not be ignored. The reason for high migration levels is our success. This is partly due to our membership of the EU. That's why they come . Leave and the jobs will go. For our kids as well. Please see sense on this.

This debate is going round in circles now - those arguments have been done to death. You'll see if you read back through the thread.

[lymehoop]

Gove supports QPR. Other than that he is repulsive. If you have kids at school ask their teachers. He Put all I have worked for as a teacher back 29 years. Arrogant man. Wrong man,
. Vote in to safeguard our children's future .

no wonder the youngsters are voting Remain if teachers like you are ramming this tripe down their throats day in, day OUT

[Itsonlyagame]

no wonder the youngsters are voting Remain if teachers like you are ramming this tripe down their throats day in, day OUT

not just any old teacher though, a Geography teacher !!

[Pinkie]

safeguard our childrens future staying in lol,gordon bennett heard it all now

[dogsrrs]

not just any old teacher though, a Geography teacher !!

Not just any old geography teacher tho it'sonly a Geography A LEVEL teacher !!

[Itsonlyagame]

Not just any old geography teacher tho it'sonly a Geography A LEVEL teacher !!

Damn, we'd better throw the towel in now dogs.

[wortonranger]

no wonder the youngsters are voting Remain if teachers like you are ramming this tripe down their throats day in, day OUT

Sorry but that's downright offensive. I don't think you have really engaged with the topic. I have had to for many years, otherwise my students would not have got the A level grades they have. I base my views on research and understanding of the issues prior to this cursed debate being launched by Farage and UKIP. We are hugely better off in. Out is a gamble . Why take it for goodness sake. ( proud to be a teacher, proud to be a geographer and proud to be an R).

[Itsonlyagame]

Sorry but that's downright offensive. I don't think you have really engaged with the topic. I have had to for many years, otherwise my students would not have got the A level grades they have. I base my views on research and understanding of the issues prior to this cursed debate being launched by Farage and UKIP. We are hugely better off in. Out is a gamble . Why take it for goodness sake. ( proud to be a teacher, proud to be a geographer and proud to be an R).

Isn't calling someone arrogant and self seeking a tad offensive ?

[jmelanie]

Sorry but that's downright offensive. I don't think you have really engaged with the topic. I have had to for many years, otherwise my students would not have got the A level grades they have. I base my views on research and understanding of the issues prior to this cursed debate being launched by Farage and UKIP. We are hugely better off in. Out is a gamble . Why take it for goodness sake. ( proud to be a teacher, proud to be a geographer and proud to be an R).

It sounds like you discuss politics with your pupils and try to persuade them to your point of view. I actually find this offensive. Fortunately when I was at school this was a big "no, no". I recall one of our particular leftist teachers tried to persuade us to follow his politics and following complaints from parents he was suspended.

[maidstone_hoop]

Took this from a gentleman on Facebook and explains a lot about the scare mongering from the In campaign and why I'm out!

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about June 23rd, and people want to know the facts. Here are some:

You are not voting to leave the EEA or WTO, meaning all of the UK's trade and benefit agreements will remain unchanged should we leave, until such a time that the UK decides to renegotiate them for any reason.

You are not voting to leave NATO, meaning our security agreements remain unchanged. Should we receive an act of hostility from a non-NATO member, then NATO countries are obliged to come to our assistance. This does not change.

You are not voting to leave the UN, G8 or G20, meaning Britain will have the same voice on the world stage as it does today.

You are not voting to leave Europe!! The UK will still, geographically, be part of Europe. Non political organisations aligned to Europe will still extend membership to the UK (I.e. sports governing bodies, and so on).

You are not voting to stop recognising Interpol, Europol and neither are you voting for SIS / MI6 to stop dealing with other intelligence services in the fight against terrorism and global, organised crime.

You are not voting against being able to travel to Europe, contrary to the belief of some fools recently on TV. The UK has always maintained stricter border and passport controls than many EU members. This will not change. You will still use a passport to go on holiday and you will still be allowed entry to countries in Europe. You may even get chance to skip queues by using the non--EU queues at the airport (the only point so far that is my opinion, and not necessarily a fact).

The UK economy will benefit to the tune of £billions in the first year after we leave.

Medical and science research will not simply stop. The UK pays into the EU to then get money back in the form of funding. The UK will now be in control of this money and can choose to fund whatever UK based medical, science, art or other research it chooses.

Farming will not lose money because of EU funding being cut. The UK negotiated a rebate of some monies that the UK pays to the EU, in order to subsidise UK farmers. Instead of asking for our money back, we can give it straight to farmers. No change there.

You are not voting against human rights. The EU Convention on, and European Court of Human Rights are not part of the EU. Until parliament passes a new bill of rights for the UK, these will still apply, as will precedents already passed down to UK courts from Brussels.

You are not voting to kick anyone out of the UK or block access to anyone. Neither are you voting to stop recruiting valuable European workers into things like the NHS. Like my other point about passports for travel, the UK is already outside of the Schengen zone and so migrant workers must enter the UK with a valid passport before and after June 23rd. That will not change. British borders maintain full control of who comes and goes. Should someone have the skills to apply to work in the NHS, then they will still be permitted travel and given an opportunity to apply for a job. Worst case, points based assessment, like the US, Canada and Australia use, will come into effect. The UK is likely to negotiate freedom of labour movement though, in exchange for freedom of goods movement.

You are not voting to move jobs nor production out of the UK! The EU actually helped fund the move of Ford Transit production from the UK to Turkey... Yes, the EU helped give UK jobs to people in Turkey by giving Ford a loan of £80m with very generous terms!

What you are voting for is UK sovereignty. You are voting to stay in or leave a political union of leaders and representatives that you British people did not elect. You are voting against a commission of unelected, elite men that nobody at all voted for and yet they make decisions on our behalf. You are simply voting to bring sovereignty back to Westminster, and that is all. If you worry about that because you don't like the Conservative government, look at the reality. Their majority in parliament is very slim. They have been blocked on big decisions already. You are therefore not giving sovereignty to David Cameron, but to the UK House of elected representatives. Do not be fooled by the fear campaigns that are simply run by the wealthy, who need EU money to thrive! Think about the future, and your family's future.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Out is a gamble . Why take it for goodness sake

Fortune favours the brave.

The fact people think the world would end if we leave is so laughable it's untrue.

Nothing will change with regards to trade, will BMW stop selling us billions of pounds worth of cars then? Will banks not give out mortgages with massive returns in their favour?

It's all scare tactics. Every country should have the ability to govern themselves. Full stop.

Out out out out.

[lymehoop]

Sorry but that's downright offensive. I don't think you have really engaged with the topic. I have had to for many years, otherwise my students would not have got the A level grades they have. I base my views on research and understanding of the issues prior to this cursed debate being launched by Farage and UKIP. We are hugely better off in. Out is a gamble . Why take it for goodness sake. ( proud to be a teacher, proud to be a geographer and proud to be an R).

my Geography teacher Charlie Hurley, a gruff Aussie, taught me the value of the Commonwealth and The World. Sorry you felt my post was offensive, but your posts come over a bit overbearing