Everton v QPR Match Thread/team news

[West Acton]

Im wondering where all the pace in the team is everyone was going on about look as lethargic as we normally do away

[MattyRangers]

All keeper's make the odd mistake, when they're at teams who concede a lot of opposition pressure and chances, they have more chance of making a costly one.

Your expectations that we'd be better with a different keeper is incorrect in my opinion .

He has saved us in at least 4 games this season already. Far far far outweighs any mistakes he has made. Bigger picture & all that. If we had a keeper that didn't make a single mistake he would soon be snapped up by Real Madrid

[QPRDave]

Can the craggy boated old see you enn tea be blamed for this though?
Everyone screaming at him to play phillips and hoilett and he does and they prove yet again they are both useless and nowhere near prem standard.
Its hard to see what the manager can do.

Kev ffs pack it in!!!!!.........you can't go on posting sensible stuff...now get with the programme...1..2...3 harry out!!...fernandes out!!!...beard out!!! ....everybody out!!!

[Rangers77]

Can JordOFF. As in f ack out of the club???? He's not ON is he? As in on the pitch.....

[MattyRangers]

Im wondering where all the pace in the team is everyone was going on about look as lethargic as we normally do away

It's shocking aint it. Barely out of 1st gear. No urgency whatsoever.

[West Acton]

All keeper's make the odd mistake, when they're at teams who concede a lot of opposition pressure and chances, they have more chance of making a costly one.

Your expectations that we'd be better with a different keeper is incorrect in my opinion.

Fair point which therefore begs another question of who do we blame the manager for how he sends them out away from home or players for not playing to the plan

[QPRDave]

Im wondering where all the pace in the team is everyone was going on about look as lethargic as we normally do away

they're the paciest we have ...as kev has said this is what the moaners wanted to see.......they're just not good enough or the service to them for that matter

[DeepcutHoop]

Fair point which therefore begs another question of who do we blame the manager for how he sends them out away from home or players for not playing to the plan

We've been playing in much the same fashion for the entirety of Harry's tenure, and he's the manager and responsible for coaching and motivation.

[brightonr]

The main reason Green has appeared to do so well is the fact that he is probably three times as busy as any other keeper in the division. His mistakes are just an added extra with him.

We have been absolutely appalling once again. Mutch and Phillips would struggle in women's football.

God only knows what the manager and coaches do all week, but the sooner we see the back of them the better in my opinion. Really running out of patience now, because it's getting to the stage where if we don't win at home, we are bang in trouble again. They have had two years now and we still haven't a clue how to defend.

[bushcelt1]

i know we are 3 down but we have actually played some decent football tonight. don't blame green for any of it.

[West Acton]

He has saved us in at least 4 games this season already. Far far far outweighs any mistakes he has made. Bigger picture & all that. If we had a keeper that didn't make a single mistake he would soon be snapped up by Real Madrid

Ok give him the benefit of the doubt for first two is the mistake for the third acceptable?? is it to much to expect what was recently Englands number one keeper to put his foot through the ball and kick it to the other end of the field instead of skying it??? Im astonished some are willing to accept the errors which are frequent

Its not hard, kicking is the most basic of the keepers tasks if we cant rely on the keeper to get the most basic of his duties correct what chance do we have

[QPRDave]

thought hoddle was the man the other week and behind our collecting points.........oh yeah we won then

[West Acton]

It's shocking aint it. Barely out of 1st gear. No urgency whatsoever.

At home we hunt in packs Matty and when were on the ball there is always an option and an out ball away from home were not a team were individual's

[MattyRangers]

Ok give him the benefit of the doubt for first two is the mistake for the third acceptable?? is it to much to expect what was recently Englands number one keeper to put his foot through the ball and kick it to the other end of the field instead of skying it??? Im astonished some are willing to accept the errors which are frequent

Its not hard, kicking is the most basic of the keepers tasks if we cant rely on the keeper to get the most basic of his duties correct what chance do we have

Thing is West, it's not frequent is it? He has been superb all season for us, but one poor kick & it's jump on Green again.

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

Interesting that Barton leading with the elbow doesn't warrant a first yellow, compared to the Austin challenge that got a second.

Not excusing Austin's silliness for maing that challenge, it's just so inconsistently managed by referees.

not sure charlie wouldve made a difference tonight