has our scouting sysytem/academy failed us????

[Factamondo]

im all for a good youth system but only ajax have really excelled at it and of course man utd in this country.........and crewe!

[Geng]

our best sides have been when the nucleus were from our youth teams, 1967 and 1982, the problem is the yoof of today have so many distractions and there are few gems to pick from:impatient:

It's more that the market for players is now worldwide. There will be fewer English 'gems' now that they're competing against the best players from all over the world just to get a game in the top flight

[Geng]

Though yeah the fact that top kids are now earning £10k / week before they've actually achieved anything does mean we have a motivation problem compared to many other countries.

[Factamondo]

agreedamondo geng....i know of a kid at chelsea on 7.5k a week at 18 and drives a porsche.........nuff said!.......where will the hunger be??

[Awin]

That spurs kid was dean parrett.. Was in same England youth team as wilshere
Wilshere has gone onto arsenal first team and playing for the England team
Parrett has gone on to loans with Yeovil and Plymouth... Bostock has also disappeared.., doesn't say a lot for spurs youth development or the players they buy in....

[CroydonCaptainJack]

our best sides have been when the nucleus were from our youth teams, 1967 and 1982, the problem is the yoof of today have so many distractions and there are few gems to pick from:impatient:

Surely 1975 was our best team

[QprSinceBirth]

Until the new money arrived we haven't had a scouting network or an Academy in place for years - so no it hasn't failed us as we didn't have them.

So true .

[lymehoop]

Surely 1975 was our best team

won't argue with that, what I'm trying to say the camaraderie you get when the back-bone of the team grow up together, unlike the squad today with so many factions.

[QPRDave]

We do have Doughty, Andrade, Harriman, Ehmer, Hewitt who have been out on loan. So there may be some on the verge

[Hitman34]

We do have Doughty, Andrade, Harriman, Ehmer, Hewitt who have been out on loan. So there may be some on the verge

dont forget shariff! puls we HAD jones,sterling.

[ollyhoops]

There is a good reason why we don't produce youngsters anymore, and thaat reason is that the top 6 clubs keep poaching them and you only get compensation worth peanuts.

Stirling we got £500k
Parrett we got £500k
O'Brian was the same as above
etc. etc.

Thats why it isn't worth it, until they make compensation more reasonable such as market value i'm afraid there will be no youngsters coming through at any club outside the top 6.

Thats why the England side have mediocure youngsters.

[loneranger]

We have had a fair bit of tragedy affect our youth team over the years.

[OneEyedWilly]

Its a problem for pretty much all clubs in the UK

[paulmason]

im all for a good youth system but only ajax have really excelled at it and of course man utd in this country.........and crewe!

Kinda strange you don't mention Southampton ?

Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, their current left back to name a few of their most recent gems.

[paulmason]

There is a good reason why we don't produce youngsters anymore, and thaat reason is that the top 6 clubs keep poaching them and you only get compensation worth peanuts.

Stirling we got £500k
Parrett we got £500k
O'Brian was the same as above
etc. etc.

Thats why it isn't worth it, until they make compensation more reasonable such as market value i'm afraid there will be no youngsters coming through at any club outside the top 6.

Thats why the England side have mediocure youngsters.

Parrat is at Yeovil ?
O'Brian is at Hastings ?

Hardly done well for themselves and should have stayed at W12.