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Very good news lads and time to relax, massive well done Tony and Harry!
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Err bit of an over reaction don't you think,I don't even know you so how could I have any issue with you,and lets be sensible this is just a message board for expressing opinions,good or bad,and if he doesn't sign you will be left with egg on your face,but so what take it on the chin like a man and laugh it off ffs.Hugely offensive and hardly a fair reflection on my post. I was just passing on info so not sure why you've taken such an offence by it. Anyway I am not 1 that wants to wash my laundry in public, so for that reason you will be getting a pm and we will try and resolve the issue you have with me behind closed doors!Comment
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He may struggle with this bit :-)Err bit of an over reaction don't you think,I don't even know you so how could I have any issue with you,and lets be sensible this is just a message board for expressing opinions,good or bad,and if he doesn't sign you will be left with egg on your face,but so what take it on the chin like a man and laugh it off ffs.Comment
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I did think at the time it was very strange that Harry said what he said regarding M'vila. He's not a stupid man, and he is a very experienced manager.When he was asked he hesitated before saying yeah all going well etc.
It struck me that he didn't want him and it was a smoke screen, but that doesn't add up with the scouting missions and time spent negotiating with him and his club........just find it strange he was so open in a press conference.Comment
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I would say at this stage that what HR doesn't know about negotiating could be contained in a very slim volume indeed; he knows what he's doing, we're just not on the same page yet. We'll just have to trust his judgement for now....I did think at the time it was very strange that Harry said what he said regarding M'vila. He's not a stupid man, and he is a very experienced manager.When he was asked he hesitated before saying yeah all going well etc.
It struck me that he didn't want him and it was a smoke screen, but that doesn't add up with the scouting missions and time spent negotiating with him and his club........just find it strange he was so open in a press conference.Comment
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Yeah good post mate, there's more to it than meets the eyeComment
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Personally I think beard has told Harry its going well he is having a medical on Thursday ect everything agreed. So that's why he said that then somewhere along the line it's gone pete tong.Comment
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Letīs consider it to be a done deal then!!I did think at the time it was very strange that Harry said what he said regarding M'vila. He's not a stupid man, and he is a very experienced manager.When he was asked he hesitated before saying yeah all going well etc.
It struck me that he didn't want him and it was a smoke screen, but that doesn't add up with the scouting missions and time spent negotiating with him and his club........just find it strange he was so open in a press conference.
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Of course he wanted him. When we have a small time window to acquire essential players he and the powers that be are not going to waste valuable time chasing a smokescreen.I did think at the time it was very strange that Harry said what he said regarding M'vila. He's not a stupid man, and he is a very experienced manager.When he was asked he hesitated before saying yeah all going well etc.
It struck me that he didn't want him and it was a smoke screen, but that doesn't add up with the scouting missions and time spent negotiating with him and his club........just find it strange he was so open in a press conference.
also as for HR saying daft things, i'm not sure why people are surprised. He's a media darling for good reason, he gives out information, often detail that you think he really shouldn't.... the press are effectively vultures waiting for the next feed often with Harry. I thnk that is one of the reasons he fell out with Daniel Levy, becasue too often he'd leak names or info, particularly around transfer dealings or plans that it often weakened their position... and we all know what a hard bargainer Levy is when it comes to transfers so i'm sure at times he'd have pulled his hair out if he had any with some of Harry's leaks.
He's already made ricks to the press since with us... why has he divulged players wages, ie Bosingwa, this gives every target a perceived benchmark to aim for, and why was he so public when asked about Mvila.... i honestly think any chance we had was lost then as made everyone aware he was up for a bargain and any interested parties spoke with his club.Comment
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Look Harry is not stupid even the most naive manager does not "announce" signings before they are done. I already said it doesn't add up but Harry's behaviour opens up avenues to question.There was talk that to get Remy to come it would be helpful to get Mvila, and well we got Remy already. You think Bosingwa details were a rick? I think you're the one that is being daft. Harry did that imo to force him out, get the fans turning on him and all round bad press. I think you underestimate our manager.Comment
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You think the fans weren't already against Bosingwa...? Also if it needed any more negativity, simply saying he's on big wages and refused ot be a sub would be more than enough.Look Harry is not stupid even the most naive manager does not "announce" signings before they are done. I already said it doesn't add up but Harry's behaviour opens up avenues to question.There was talk that to get Remy to come it would be helpful to get Mvila, and well we got Remy already. You think Bosingwa details were a rick? I think you're the one that is being daft. Harry did that imo to force him out, get the fans turning on him and all round bad press. I think you underestimate our manager.
But if you actually think it's good for our manager to publicly announce to the world exactly what one of our higher earners is getting then more fool you. I guarantee that is not good when it comes to any negotiation with an agent of a player we want.
As for not announcing it before it was done.... what exactly do you think he did...?
Also, i think you overestimate Harry tbh. I think it was made clear with all his court revelations that he is far from the sharpest tool in the box. Good manager yes, particularly intelligent... no.Last edited by Del; 22-01-2013, 10:27 AM.Comment
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