Are we simply rubbish

[qpr4life]

you can post your opinion where you like mate this is a forum after all.

haha - I think im going to be fighting a losing battle here Vblock.

No I understand fully peoples worries. But I dont think we are 'SIMPLY RUBBISH' - are we?

[Shania]

Like you English would say;We are not brave enough in battle. Why not attack with more players. We have got nothing to lose.

[acricketer]

Trouble is, most of them aren't British.

[QPR_NW10]

Trouble is, most of them aren't British.

doesn't really make a difference in my opinion - hardly anyone is in any club now...

[Mellowhoop]

Here's my opinion... Will Hughes turn it around?? What are peoples definitions of 'turning it around'?

I think we will pick points up. I think we will win a few, draw a few and lose more then we win or draw. Do people think Hughes is going to turn us into a top 8 club?

We are a bottom 5 club. The defends and strikers are not good enough.. Nobody will get consistency from having two different centre halves every week. Traore isn't fit enough for this league.

If we have a settled starting 11 and sort stupidity out we will be fine. If those two factors carry on.. Relegated.

Mellowhoops verdict.. Keep Hughes

[MattyRangers]

we are not good enough for this league, especially defensively.
relegation almost certain.

What a load of ****.

[Mellowhoop]

Defensively we are not Matty.

[QPR Richard]

What a load of ****.

If the season ended today we'd be relegated - have a look at the table, we're in the drop zone if you didn't know, and we're there for a reason.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

in August 2011 Football 365 made a comment about QPR after our defeat away to Wigan about a premier league side fielding Clint Hill at centre back and that this could only lead one way... In august 2012, QPR were still fielding Clint Hill at centre back.

If website hacks and 99.9% of fans were concerned a year ago about our defensive frailties and nothing has changed, then you have to wonder just what the club have been up to during a 12 months where we have brought over 11,000 new players to the team, yet failed to recognize one clear fault in the squad (among others..) that was obvious a year ago.

I know we tried (how hard?) to bring in Michael Dawson, but really we needed to try much harder to address this glaring issue

dont get me started on our striking options....

So what did Football 365 say when we stayed up last season despite their prediction?

[CroydonCaptainJack]

If the season ended today we'd be relegated - have a look at the table, we're in the drop zone if you didn't know, and we're there for a reason.

Is the season ending today then?

[DouDou_87]

If the season ended today we'd be relegated - have a look at the table, we're in the drop zone if you didn't know, and we're there for a reason.

Ridiculous post. Yes we've been dog awful at times, especially against Reading, but we've also been quite good at times and unless you haven't noticed the season consists of 38 games.

One win and the confidence and conviction will come back. THERE ARE STILL 84 POINTS LEFT TO PLAY FOR.

[stanistheman]

For what it's worth, I think the squad is not great as some would like to believe, but it is not a bad one either.

A better manager & coach would get more out of the players than Hughes & Bowen.

QPR have a problem in defence, because of the lack of a commanding centre back and organisation. A decent coach can prepare the defenders at his disposal better than the current one(s).

The other main problem is a lack of goals.
Cisse is a 15 goals a season striker if he plays around 30 games (not including a number of 20 min apps as a sub).
Zamora is unlikely to get into double figures.
Johnson was an accident waiting to happen (we all knew that apart from Hughes).
Hoilett & Taarabt at best can expect to score somewhere between 4-8 goals depending on how often they play.
Cesar, Nelsen, Diakite, Faurlin and Granero are all good players for the Premiership.

I agree, QPR have a number of players that other clubs are were not that keen on, i.e. Ferdinand, Onuoha, Traore, SWP, Park & Mackie.

I dont have faith in Hughes to turn things around. A few games ago, I suggested looking at the poor start as a bad run nearly all teams will suffer during a season. But 10 games in, this is not a bad run anymore.

His away record at previous clubs and now, suggests QPR will struggle for an away win all season. Which will mean needing to win at least 50% of the remaining home fixtures to even give them a chance of staying up.

Even if a new manager comes in soon, a lot of damage has already been done. A new goalscorer and perhaps a better CB will be needed in January. Even then, QPR will do very well to finish above 16th place.

[qpr4life]

For what it's worth, I think the squad is not great as some would like to believe, but it is not a bad one either.

A better manager & coach would get more out of the players than Hughes & Bowen.

QPR have a problem in defence, because of the lack of a commanding centre back and organisation. A decent coach can prepare the defenders at his disposal better than the current one(s).

The other main problem is a lack of goals.
Cisse is a 15 goals a season striker if he plays around 30 games (not including a number of 20 min apps as a sub).
Zamora is unlikely to get into double figures.
Johnson was an accident waiting to happen (we all knew that apart from Hughes).
Hoilett & Taarabt at best can expect to score somewhere between 4-8 goals depending on how often they play.
Cesar, Nelsen, Diakite, Faurlin and Granero are all good players for the Premiership.

I agree, QPR have a number of players that other clubs are were not that keen on, i.e. Ferdinand, Onuoha, Traore, SWP, Park & Mackie.

I dont have faith in Hughes to turn things around. A few games ago, I suggested looking at the poor start as a bad run nearly all teams will suffer during a season. But 10 games in, this is not a bad run anymore.

His away record at previous clubs and now, suggests QPR will struggle for an away win all season. Which will mean needing to win at least 50% of the remaining home fixtures to even give them a chance of staying up.

Even if a new manager comes in soon, a lot of damage has already been done. A new goalscorer and perhaps a better CB will be needed in January. Even then, QPR will do very well to finish above 16th place.

Thanks for repeating whats been said for the last month over and over again

[vblockranger]

For what it's worth, I think the squad is not great as some would like to believe, but it is not a bad one either.

A better manager & coach would get more out of the players than Hughes & Bowen.

QPR have a problem in defence, because of the lack of a commanding centre back and organisation. A decent coach can prepare the defenders at his disposal better than the current one(s).

The other main problem is a lack of goals.
Cisse is a 15 goals a season striker if he plays around 30 games (not including a number of 20 min apps as a sub).
Zamora is unlikely to get into double figures.
Johnson was an accident waiting to happen (we all knew that apart from Hughes).
Hoilett & Taarabt at best can expect to score somewhere between 4-8 goals depending on how often they play.
Cesar, Nelsen, Diakite, Faurlin and Granero are all good players for the Premiership.

I agree, QPR have a number of players that other clubs are were not that keen on, i.e. Ferdinand, Onuoha, Traore, SWP, Park & Mackie.

I dont have faith in Hughes to turn things around. A few games ago, I suggested looking at the poor start as a bad run nearly all teams will suffer during a season. But 10 games in, this is not a bad run anymore.

His away record at previous clubs and now, suggests QPR will struggle for an away win all season. Which will mean needing to win at least 50% of the remaining home fixtures to even give them a chance of staying up.

Even if a new manager comes in soon, a lot of damage has already been done. A new goalscorer and perhaps a better CB will be needed in January. Even then, QPR will do very well to finish above 16th place.

Good post mate. Spot on.

[QPR Richard]

Ridiculous post. Yes we've been dog awful at times, especially against Reading, but we've also been quite good at times and unless you haven't noticed the season consists of 38 games.

One win and the confidence and conviction will come back. THERE ARE STILL 84 POINTS LEFT TO PLAY FOR.

Ridiculous? Look at the table, look at our form, look at our away record. We are 19th in the table because we're not winning football matches, and if we continue as we are, we're going to get relegated. Being 'quite good at times' hasn't got us many points has it? Being 'quite good at times' has got us how many wins? I count zero.

Do the maths. I did. At current rates we're on for 15.2 points for the season. Anyway, if you'd read the context of my post instead of trying to look clever, I was trying to point out that we are in a terrible position right now. We've not won a game this season and we're in trouble. Anyone who thinks it's all rosy in the garden at the moment needs a reality check.

Tell you what. Let's all shut up as there's 84 points left to play for. You obviously seem to think one win and we're on our way. It'll take a bit more than that to convince me and plenty of others.