John Terry

[LoftusRoadLad]

Lets hope Terry accepts it so we can all put it to bed.

[Gtleighsr3]

to be fair to JT,id tell the FA to go and cluck themselves.He not guilty in a court of law but found guilty by a fossil run mickey mouse association.he is not a racist,he is a tw at though.Anton needs to move on as well its all got silly imo.Name calling is not pleasent,racial names is offensive but its a year ago now and no one died did they.

[dsqpr]

Found guilty, banned for 4 games and fined £220k.
Bit confused how the FA found him guilty but the courts didn't?

One possible reason is the standard of proof required. In a criminal trial the standard of proof required is "beyond any reasonable doubt". The courts did not find him "innocent", they found that the prosecution had not proven the case against him "beyond any reasonable doubt". (Which, as we all know, is a joke.) This does NOT mean that the court found him "innocent"! That is a completely different thing altogether!

For other types of trial there can be different standards of proof, such as "on the balance of probabilities". Perhaps that is the standard required by an FA tribunal.

[Gtleighsr3]

he admitted using the word,in a court of law it is down to which context it was used in.On a FB pitch its not allowed at all in any context hence guilty.

[padstow]

One possible reason is the standard of proof required. In a criminal trial the standard of proof required is "beyond any reasonable doubt". The courts did not find him "innocent", they found that the prosecution had not proven the case against him "beyond any reasonable doubt". (Which, as we all know, is a joke.) This does NOT mean that the court found him "innocent"! That is a completely different thing altogether!

For other types of trial there can be different standards of proof, such as "on the balance of probabilities". Perhaps that is the standard required by an FA tribunal.

is EXACTLY the right answer. All this "but he was not guilty in a court of law" nonsense is doing my head in!

The best thing about this is that I hope all of his sponsors drop him now. It'll cost him MILLIONS!!!!

[QPRDave]

Found guilty, banned for 4 games and fined £220k.
Bit confused how the FA found him guilty but the courts didn't?

That'll learn im!!!

[Gtleighsr3]

beanz n toast for the kids for a week then

[QPRDave]

beanz n toast for the kids for a week then

while he's out wining and dining frank's oss

[Gtleighsr3]

shes a sugar cube type maybe a carrotttttttttttt if playing hard

[QPRDave]

[Kit]

One possible reason is the standard of proof required. In a criminal trial the standard of proof required is "beyond any reasonable doubt". The courts did not find him "innocent", they found that the prosecution had not proven the case against him "beyond any reasonable doubt". (Which, as we all know, is a joke.) This does NOT mean that the court found him "innocent"! That is a completely different thing altogether!

For other types of trial there can be different standards of proof, such as "on the balance of probabilities". Perhaps that is the standard required by an FA tribunal.

Exactly as I see it, when the Judge summed it up he pretty much said as much, it certainly wasn't Terry is Innocent. Glad the FA have actually had the balls for once, Terry fully deserves this.

[supahoopsaaa]

Something I'd posted on the matter in a previous thread hopefully clears it up.

In a criminal trial it must be proved 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

FA charge Has to be proved 'on the balance of probabilities'.

Terry has been charged by the FA for breaching rule E3 - Use of abusive and insulting words and/or behaviour which included a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race towards an opponent.

In court it could not be determined what exactly was said so they could not prove it beyond reasonable doubt. The FA has a lower level if 'on the balance of probabilities' they find that Terry broke the rule then I'd expect a lengthy ban.

Terry has admitted using the words and if he maintains it as a sarcastic reply then the FA would need to decide whether that was more probable than him calling AF what he did out of anger.

From the result I'd guess hes bargained with the FA to pay a bigger fine and less of a ban. Glad he got found guilty and shows up the judicial system.

[MattyRangers]

So Joey's tantrum at City is 3 times worse than racial abuse according to the FA

[QPRDave]

So Joey's tantrum at City is 3 times worse than racial abuse according to the FA

seems so mate

[Factamondo]

to be fair to JT,id tell the FA to go and cluck themselves.He not guilty in a court of law but found guilty by a fossil run mickey mouse association.he is not a racist,he is a tw at though.Anton needs to move on as well its all got silly imo.Name calling is not pleasent,racial names is offensive but its a year ago now and no one died did they.

that monsignor leighsie my fellow chappie of the county of god..............is a factamondo!.....good post!